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Fri May 29, 2020, 09:45 AM

Van Jones blames Hillary supporters.

Van Jones on CNN:

"Itís not the racist person in the KKK that we have to worry about.

Itís the white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in central park"


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Reply Van Jones blames Hillary supporters. (Original post)
BlueLucy May 2020 OP
Laelth May 2020 #1
comradebillyboy May 2020 #74
DURHAM D May 2020 #2
brooklynite May 2020 #18
DURHAM D May 2020 #22
Orangepeel May 2020 #25
DURHAM D May 2020 #29
pnwmom May 2020 #41
MrsCoffee May 2020 #26
tblue37 May 2020 #27
MrsCoffee May 2020 #28
smirkymonkey May 2020 #56
scarletwoman May 2020 #36
LanternWaste May 2020 #48
karynnj May 2020 #52
smirkymonkey May 2020 #55
obamanut2012 May 2020 #21
DURHAM D May 2020 #24
pnwmom May 2020 #32
DURHAM D May 2020 #33
pnwmom May 2020 #40
JenniferJuniper May 2020 #3
walkingman May 2020 #4
dalton99a May 2020 #5
mucifer May 2020 #6
JI7 May 2020 #8
mucifer May 2020 #10
LanternWaste May 2020 #49
Drunken Irishman May 2020 #12
rusty fender May 2020 #38
qazplm135 May 2020 #13
Hortensis May 2020 #69
madaboutharry May 2020 #7
BannonsLiver May 2020 #37
LAS14 May 2020 #9
sop May 2020 #11
Celerity May 2020 #14
BlueLucy May 2020 #17
Celerity May 2020 #19
beachbumbob May 2020 #15
Kid Berwyn May 2020 #16
UTUSN May 2020 #20
Baltimike May 2020 #68
LizBeth May 2020 #23
Submariner May 2020 #30
samsingh May 2020 #31
Cha May 2020 #43
samsingh May 2020 #75
Cha May 2020 #76
Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #34
BannonsLiver May 2020 #35
Brainfodder May 2020 #39
Cha May 2020 #42
Hekate May 2020 #45
Cha May 2020 #47
Sogo May 2020 #44
ehrnst May 2020 #46
mfcorey1 May 2020 #50
pwb May 2020 #51
skypilot May 2020 #53
GoCubsGo May 2020 #54
aikoaiko May 2020 #57
BlueLucy May 2020 #58
radius777 May 2020 #59
zak247 May 2020 #60
BlueLucy May 2020 #61
Steelrolled May 2020 #62
betsuni May 2020 #63
Blecht May 2020 #64
rockfordfile May 2020 #65
rockfordfile May 2020 #66
herding cats May 2020 #67
BadGimp May 2020 #70
RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #71
SharonClark May 2020 #72
BGBD May 2020 #73

Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:47 AM

1. Spooky.

This one, little message captures the core of the dilemma that we face as a society.

I have no answer.



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #1)

Fri May 29, 2020, 11:49 PM

74. It has been clear for more than four years that Van Jones

hated Hillary and boosted Bernie. He still hasn't forgiven Hillary for beating sanders in 2016. In the interim he found occasion to praise Donald Trump. I've had a low opinion of Van Jones for a long time now. He is an even worse example of shoddy both sides journalism than Chuck Toad or Andrea Mitchell.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:47 AM

2. Wasn't the woman in the park Canadian? nt

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:23 AM

18. No.

She has an FEC record of contributions to Democratic candidates.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:33 AM

22. Contributions do not mean she is not a foreign national. nt

Edit: She is from Ontario.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #22)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

25. you do have to be a US citizen to donate to a federal campaign

but I don't know that the Amy Cooper in the park was the Amy Cooper who donated to democrats. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #25)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:50 AM

29. I don't think small online contributors have actually being

chased down since 2008.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #29)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:33 PM

41. If that's the case, what's your point? That she MIGHT have been a Democrat, based on no evidence? n/

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:39 AM

26. Weren't those contributions from someone with a different middle initial?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:39 AM

27. That was Amy L. Cooper. The Central Park woman is a Canadian named Any M. Cooper. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #27)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:49 AM

28. Yep.

The Independent article some folks jumped on was misleading at best.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #27)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:55 PM

56. And apparently Amy L. Cooper is listed as "retired", so they clearly

 

are not the same person.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 12:41 PM

36. I'm pretty sure this has been debunked. I saw a DU post yesterday that explained it was the wrong

name (wrong middle initial) that was turned up as a Democratic Party contributor - it was not the Central Park woman.

I tried to find the post, but could not, sorry. However, it made a compelling case.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:00 PM

48. Ironic that you've often lectured others for misidentifying strangers.

 

But I get it... it's easier to hold others to a standard we ourselves fail to meet, it's a rather convenient and dog-eared conceit to carry around in our pockets.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:29 PM

52. There were some accounts saying she was Canadian and the donations were from other Amy Coopers

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:52 PM

55. She is Canadian and I thought those contributions were from one of the

 

many other Amy Coopers who live in NYC. I find it hard to believe she would donate generously to Dem candidates and then go off like a psycho on her friend for voting for Obama. There is a lot of misinformation floating around.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:32 AM

21. Yes

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #21)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

24. Thanks. nt

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Fri May 29, 2020, 11:48 AM

32. Different Amy Cooper with a different initial. It's such a common surname

that the victim, Chris Cooper, shares it.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #32)

Fri May 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

33. Not sure what you are saying.

The woman in the park is from Canada.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #33)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:32 PM

40. The woman who's reported to give to Democrats is not the Canadian.

There is more than one Amy Cooper. The one in the park isn't old enough to be retired and she has a different initial than another Amy Cooper.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:49 AM

3. So the nasty Central Park woman

makes the KKK okay? No worries about them?

Racism is everywhere, but let's not start giving out passes to the usual players.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:49 AM

4. Wrong - it's the white, conservative, holier-than-thou, Trump supporter we have to worry about.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:49 AM

5. Once in while Van Jones crawls out of Trump's ass and gives us a bothsiderism

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:51 AM

6. There are white liberals like that. There is some truth to his statement

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Response to mucifer (Reply #6)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:52 AM

8. If anyone else said it I would get what they were saying. But in his case

I see it more as a way to attack Democrats and help Trump .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #8)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:57 AM

10. I think this should not be swept under the carpet and it could ultimately be good that

he is engaging the discussion.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #10)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:01 PM

49. Or merely engaging in sanctimony.

 

The one does not deny the other.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #6)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:02 AM

12. Bullshit.

 

It's the white supremacist cops who are doing the killings. Not the Karens. They're awful, too but if Van thinks they're a bigger problem than racist cops, he's out to lunch.

And to be clear: there are plenty of racist assholes who never voted Hillary and have been caught on camera harassing black people.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #12)

Fri May 29, 2020, 01:16 PM

38. This!

 

That Van Jones statement is full of crap

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Response to mucifer (Reply #6)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:04 AM

13. As a black man

I'll go ahead and worry about both, so no he doesn't have a point.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #6)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:15 PM

69. Com'on. Not a fraction enough to negate his massive racist lie.

He could as honestly say that the overwhelming majority of black Democratic Hillary voters are the problem, not the KKK.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:51 AM

7. He made some important points, but that comment was unfortunate.

It was a misplaced comment. I think what he meant to say is that regardless of political views, we as a society have been conditioned to fear black men. I get what he was saying, it just wasn't said very well.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:55 AM

9. I think he was insightful. The woman he speaks about doesn't scream out...

.... that she's an idiotic fringe person. She holds respected positions and helps make policy. She doesn't even know she's racist.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:59 AM

11. I was more worried about that woman lynching her Cocker Spaniel than anything else.

The KKK, on the other hand, has quite a history for that sort of thing. Focus, Van, focus!

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:06 AM

14. link to the video or a transcript please TIA

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Response to Celerity (Reply #14)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:15 AM

17. Here is a clip

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Response to BlueLucy (Reply #17)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:23 AM

19. thanks for posting!

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:08 AM

15. he speaks pure bullshit

 

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:11 AM

16. No, it's the undercover cop provocateurs we need worry about.

Black Flag types are leading the looting to great effect.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:30 AM

20. No, it's the Van JONES within each of our different home groups we need to worry about.

I was lambasted once by an acolyte of his on the grounds of his being such a saint.

Plus, back when I knew even less about him, when the wingnuts ran him out of the OBAMA administration, I knee-jerked about defending him as a victim of the wingnuts.






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Response to UTUSN (Reply #20)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:03 PM

68. This. Thank you for this. nt

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:35 AM

23. I can easily turn it on the Sanders Bros with sexism.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:58 AM

30. Wow, this guy is still on cable TV?

I thought he disappeared after he rejoiced that tele-promopter Trump was truly presidential, or some horseshit like that.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

31. i remember why i can't stand van jones. He also said good things about trump

van jones- way to go - keep trying to divide the left and see if that gets you positive change.

idiot.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #31)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:40 PM

43. Van Jones is the one who stupidly claimed..

"this is when trump became president".. paraphrasing. After some speech BLOTUS read from a teleprompter.

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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Sun May 31, 2020, 11:17 AM

75. i remember that stupid comment

he's not helpful to the left at all.

self serving

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Response to samsingh (Reply #75)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:22 PM

76. Van Jones is Not helpful to Reality.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 12:31 PM

34. Sorry but he's not being helpful!

 

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 12:40 PM

35. Van is a quite a dope

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 01:23 PM

39. Any one calling out Van Jones for his BS lately?

Not worthy of much comment, he's a pot stirrer, pretty obvious?

He's a talking head, they do this?







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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:37 PM

42. FO Van Jones.. You Stupid FUCK. Does he even know WTF

he's talking about?

So you want to take on 66 Million of us with LIES? Have at it, Asshole.

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Response to Cha (Reply #42)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:45 PM

45. Hi Cha. I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor...

So thanks for saying this for me.

smdh

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Response to Hekate (Reply #45)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:58 PM

47. The Stupid BURNS RED HOT with that one..

As if we don't have enough to deal with.. we get accused by Damn Van Jones of being racist like Amy Cooper.

You're Welcome, Hekate, Mahalo to you💔

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:42 PM

44. Stupid comment, Van Jones....

I'm a white liberal HC supporter, and I was appalled at what that woman in Central Park did to the black man, as well as the way she mis-handled her dog. I'm seriously glad that she's gotten all the blow-back that she has!

Further, as a white liberal HC supporter, I would have never behaved like she did.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 04:48 PM

46. FFS...

 

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:17 PM

50. Van Jones is useless! He is part of the problem.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:21 PM

51. Second new guy posting this.

Stirring things up?

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:42 PM

53. He has already forgotten Ahmaud Arbery, apparently.

And a lot of other things, including some very recent events.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 05:48 PM

54. Is this the same Van Jones who toadies up to Trump on a regular basis?

This white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter would like him go fuck himself.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 06:12 PM

57. He's echoing the MLK's Letter from Birmingham about moderates.


Invoking HRC name will of course amplify the issue, but it's still valid.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #57)

Fri May 29, 2020, 06:46 PM

58. Racism exist in all factions of the left and right

He has deep seeded hatred for Hillary supporters. In Oregon, a Bernie supporter stabbed 2 people to death who were defending Muslim girls from his harassment. No one would say all Bernie supporters are like him. Van Jones said that about Hillary supporters today with his comment about Central Park Karen.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 06:49 PM

59. Van Jones is a Dem hating alt-left clown

who frequently draws false equivalencies between Dems and Repubs, is sympathetic to Trumpers, etc.

He's basically a black male version of Susan Sarandon.

There is a valid point to be made, to echo MLK's larger point on this topic, that the typical everyday white person (who passively supports a racist system) is as much a danger as the KKK - but Van Jones wasn't really making that point but instead trying to demonize the Hillary/Obama wing to the benefit of the alt-left wing of the party.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 06:52 PM

60. It's a thoughtless remark

 

He is trying to say racism is not only from the Klan. Big dealÖwe already knew that

Also, he assuming the political beliefs of this woman. Maybe she is an of a Klan mentality. She might be a Trump supporter for all he knows.

People assume this lady is some kind of liberal because she is in NY.

Heís using Hillary as a symbol. Itís a thoughtless remark

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Response to zak247 (Reply #60)

Fri May 29, 2020, 06:58 PM

61. Nope.

He is using this tragedy to score political points with the faction on the left that supports Joe Rogan.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 07:01 PM

62. Making statements like this is what Van Jones does for a living.

 

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 07:42 PM

63. Trying to make "Hillary supporter" mean wealthy-donor-class-out-of-touch-elite-centrist-moderate.

That's so 2016 to call Democrats "Hillary supporters" as an insult.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 08:03 PM

64. Idiot

I guess he thought he needed to find his way back into the limelight, so he said something stupid again.

He needs to just go away.

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Response to Blecht (Reply #64)

Fri May 29, 2020, 08:57 PM

65. I agree

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 08:59 PM

66. Idiot

The same guy supports trump.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:01 PM

67. Oh, now the busted windows at CNN, Atlanta makes some sense.

Thanks.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:43 PM

70. (previous title deleted) I'm too angry to take the time to craft a proper response

Total fucking Troll post imo

It's my opinion that everyone needs to watch the entire video - he makes many clear and intensely powerful points:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/van-jones-george-floyd-white-liberal-hillary-clinton-supporter-sot-newday.cnn

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 09:45 PM

71. Van Jones is a fucking idiot n/m

 

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 10:44 PM

72. He's a double sexist.

Why didnít he put the blame on the white men who supported Barack Obama?

Faux News loves him for his bad mouthing of Democrats.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Fri May 29, 2020, 11:08 PM

73. I haven't forgotten

 

all of the times Van Jones talked about Trump and Kushner like a crushing schoolgirl.

I don't pay much attention to him anymore.

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