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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-voters-against-trump_n_5ed09e83c5b6aeca900f0949?ncid=APPLENEWS00001<snip>
A new ad campaign puts Republican voters front and center to talk about President Donald Trump ― but its not an endorsement.
Just the opposite. Theyre all explaining why they cant vote for Trump, and why many plan to cast ballots for Democrat Joe Biden even when they disagree on policy, in the new campaign called Republican Voters Against Trump.
Id vote for a tuna fish sandwich before Id vote for Donald Trump again, said Jack Spielman, who voted for Trump in 2016 but now calls him toxic.
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sop
(9,952 posts)They see Trump as toxic and feel he's destroying the GOP.
malaise
(267,845 posts)for his sense of self importance. He is a detestable creep.
Roc2020
(1,605 posts)thinks if I'm going to lose, I will try and destroy as many U.S Institutions as I can and maybe destroy the whole country if possible. Surreal.
malaise
(267,845 posts)He's going down with this rotten administration - they should lock him the fuck up.
CloudWatcher
(1,831 posts)There's a sick mind-set that says if I can't have what I want, I'll destroy it. I worry what's going to happen between now and President Biden.
I hope the military will stop him from starting a war. Hard to imagine, but here we are.
Mercurian
(48 posts)to start a war. The Beer-belly Brigades have been drooling over the prospect of race war for decades. We'll be lucky to make it to November.
Somewhere Charles Manson is smiling.
Captain Zero
(6,715 posts)Anywhere Putin doesn't want him starting a war. So if Trump starts anything it will only be with Putin's ok.
CloudWatcher
(1,831 posts)Well ... Putin doesn't want Trump starting WW-III, but I'm sure there's a long long list of countries Trump could attack and Putin's biggest problem would be catching his breath because he'd be laughing so hard.
cilla4progress
(24,589 posts)Did we not?
Texin
(2,585 posts)stochastic terrorism by the most unadulterated fascists within his "base". These cretins have always existed in this country, tRump is the one who has unmuzzled them to not only spew their profanities but to actually take up arms and murder those who don't think like or look like them..
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)How do you manage to be surrounded by all of the anomalies? Trump's approval ratings are off the charts with Republicans and have been from the start.
sop
(9,952 posts)ZenDem
(442 posts)...KC Northland. I'd say 50% of the repubs I know will either not vote or will vote for 'anyone' else, even a Democrat. That might be a conservative (no pun, etc) estimate.
What's weird is, the only socially vocal ones are the Trump supporters. The others are sitting quietly in the background. They only speak when spoken to and even then, in whispers.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Remains sky-high. So they're either lying to you or the pollsters. And the chances of all the Republicans who disapprove of him being located by you are nil.
That's why I stated where I live. This is an observation of one person in one location.
Lying to me? Not much reason to. I also didn't ask if they had been polled. I never have been (that I remember), and yet, I still have an opinion and vote.
I also don't really give a damn about his #s with Republicans. If they vote for Biden, that's just garnish. I only care about who we're supporting and voting for.
Love snarky posts that state the obvious. It's just so darned cute.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)You mean the wimps who, faced with clear evidence, refused to do anything about the orange ass? The wimpy people who allow him to say, do and act the way he wants to, with no backlash? THAT GOP? It is drowning in its' own swamp. Only Democratic members across the board will get this country back from the slime that the gop has brought upon us. They enabled the worst person EVER to run for the WH, giggled at his insane rants and insults. Our next first lady will not have naked photos available world wide for anyone to download. The next one will be EDUCATED, and have CLASS.
certainot
(9,090 posts)he croaks from stage 4 lung cancer. too bad fox and trump and putin's social media trolling, all piggybaccking that 30 years of lying, will get all the 'credit' for the millions of lives and global warming destruction.. all those republicans, except the city folk, would know that. they need it shoved under their noses.
trump is limbaugh with social skills and public presence, a product of all that ignored rw radio
Skittles
(152,967 posts)I really wish repukes could put country above party.
dware
(12,094 posts)they're fed up with his lies, his racism, his constant attacks against people that have disagreements with him.
My sense is that he is going to lose in Nov. and lose massively.
malaise
(267,845 posts)hope he takes all ReTHUGs with him
dware
(12,094 posts)take back the Senate and increase our hold on the House.
I feel good about this Nov.
I've been saying that for a while. He has failed the "peace, tranquility and security" requirements of the American people
KPN
(15,587 posts)Theres a rift in our family.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)is why he's emphasizing a "rigged election" talking point in preparation to save face. I agree with others we're entering a very dangerous time where he's going to engage in a "scorched earth" rampage to punish and attempt to destroy this country.
dhill926
(16,234 posts)Lock him up.
(6,874 posts)- over 100,000 preventable dead (he destroyed Obama/Biden's pandemic response team to give himself tax breaks)
- a depression-level economy (he destroyed Obama/Biden's recovery from the Bush/Cheney clown car in the ditch)
- 40 million unemployed (with no way to go back to work anytime soon)
- record-breaking bankruptcy tsunami for small businesses & farmers
- spreading lies & conspiracy theories while glorifying violence on social media (vowing to destroy the platforms?
What's next? Starting WWIII by landing a nuke on Beijing because he owes them hundreds of millions??
The Brave who owns the Home should lock him up. He/she would become a superhero instantly!!
Save the World! Lock him up.
Edit: - a record-breaking deficit over $4 Trillions future generations will never see the end of paying off.
KPN
(15,587 posts)talking point for Biden. Its short and direct.
Lock him up.
(6,874 posts)Each and every time Republicans are elected in the White House, they drive the economy in the ditch, and Democrats have to rescue it every time:
George H.W. Bush, 1991-1992 = Significant Recession, Deficit
Bill Clinton, 1994-2000 = Economy Recovered, Surplus
George W. Bush, 2007-2008 = Great Recession, Record Jobless
Barack Obama, 2009-2016 = Economy Recovered, Record Employment
Donald Drump, 2020 = Major Depression, Record Unemployment, Deficit Through The Roof, 100K+ Deaths.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,041 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)I believe none of them. None.
Stuart G
(38,365 posts)"totally incompetent"..
...People who are now opposed will not change their minds. The key words are "totally incompetent" As word gets out how Trump destroyed Obama's preparations for such a disaster, Trump will lose...
YES, WORD WILL GET OUT TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ABOUT HOW TRUMP DESTROYED OBAMA'S PREPARATIONS FOR SUCH A DISASTER.....because we know about it now, and it is not even June.
..June, July, August, September and October....5 months for people to talk about Trump's destruction of Obama's preparation.
Not 5 days, but 5 months...More than enough time to get the word out. And yes, that word will get out with proof positive. We have already seen the proof, and so will everyone else.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)You know what they'll say?
"I really don't like Trump, but he's still better than the (D - fill in the blank) candidate". (Remember that lame excuse to not vote for HRC in 2016?)
I trust none of them to do the right thing in November.. NONE
KPN
(15,587 posts)Pure and simple fear-mongering; all bluster, no substance.
malaise
(267,845 posts)but that he thinks he's a fucking genius. They realize that he's a raving lunatic who will get everyone killed.
tavernier
(12,322 posts)wont vote for Rump again. They are truly pissed and rage about it openly.
But I cant say that they wont vote for other republicans. The rage doesnt seem to spill over.
Stuart G
(38,365 posts)Trump is everything a president should NOT... be.
And the proof is clear: The last President of the United States, Barack Obama, had class
Trump has NO CLASS
John Ludi
(588 posts)I still encounter plenty of people who have their blinders on about the clown.
Here's what REALLY worries me though:
If Trump loses he will fully go scorched earth. He has all manner of legal issues waiting for him if he loses...especially if he has no assurance of a pardon (which would not extend to individual states...so even then he's not in the clear). So then he's a cornered animal who has his finger on the button and no concern for anyone but himself.
Between that and Covid, I'm not making any long term plans...and I've upped my wine intake.
malaise
(267,845 posts)Let him fucking try - they will lock him up
jaxexpat
(6,703 posts)That and UV lights in my nostrils. (you can see every vein) Must be quite a sight with the CPAP mask.
That's entertainment!
keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)It's wine o'clock somewhere.
Got that from Groupon.
Upthevibe
(7,884 posts)......Just a question, when you say "mixed feelings about this" do you mean about the content of the various videos? When I read your post you're expressing your major concern about those who still support him, your concern about what happens even if he loses what he'll do, etc.
I'm just wondering if your response is regarding what's in the video? The reason I'm asking is because I want to work in some capacity for the upcoming election cycle, and I'm paying close attention to the videos that The Lincoln Project and others are putting out. I'm trying to get a feel for what's resonating. Having said that, what's going to resonate with those of us on DU and those who are Democrats at large, in many cases is going to be different than those who voted for dt in the past and regret it, those who haven't voted in the past at all, etc. So, back to my question for you, are your mixed feelings pertaining to the content of the video? Thank you.
it took me awhile to see this...still new to the platform.
I have mixed feelings about backing the Orange Menace into a corner overall. His nature is such that he'd nuke Belgium (or wherever) if he felt like his time was up (politically OR biologically). Frankly, as much as I want to see it, a sweeping victory for Biden in November would make Trump a dangerous animal from that point until the inauguration. He has so many judgments awaiting him that he may just say "what have I got to lose?" in general.
I was actually a little irritated when Biden announced that he WOULDN'T pardon the bastard. Having the possibility of a pardon would make him that much more potentially pliable, even if that possibility would be justifiably yanked away after Biden takes office (assuming).
In dealing with a character like this it's basically like dealing with the borderline psychotic town drunk...who may be armed at any given point. Except this one has nukes...and a sizable chunk of the military that still supports him...and tons of nutjobs waiting for the bugaloo.
ffr
(22,649 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)pwb
(11,205 posts)Now they know him. He is fucked. Hope he comes out defending this cop. That will be his end.
IronLionZion
(45,269 posts)so we'll see if that's true. And now that cities are burning while Trump encourages more violence, Biden should be able to get voters who want peace and stability and coming together to work out solutions.
malaise
(267,845 posts)peace and stability matter to most people. He is a vexation to the very idea of peace and stability.
He's just an ignorant, uncouth, incompetent loud mouth racist.
keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Every republican running should have his image paired with an image of Trump saying "I take no responsibility at all."
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Look at his eyes sparkle. Even John McCain could not make THAT happen. Is he aware that tRump has said "He follows me everywhere. I do not invite him, he just shows up" Little Lindsey can sneak in anywhere, being as short as he is.
hibbing
(10,076 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,751 posts)is meaningless. Simply not voting for Trump doesn't matter. They need to actually vote for the Democratic nominee, and other Democrats down ballot.
Upthevibe
(7,884 posts)Any video, any article, anything that gives me hope gives me what I need to soldier on....
Joinfortmill
(14,248 posts)They voted for a racist, mean spirited liar in 2016. I'm going to have problems with these folks for a very long time.
Midnight Writer
(21,552 posts)That's right, and she can prove it because she saw pictures on the Internet.
My experience, living in a Red Belt, is that I'm seeing very few defections. Some, but most seem to be doubling down with outrageous lies, just like Trump does.
HootieMcBoob
(3,823 posts)Re-educate the voters?
You have got to be kidding me. I'm sorry but these people are kidding themselves. They're looking at Trump as if he's some kind of aberration. He's not. He's the embodiment of everything The Republican Party had been preaching through their elected officials, their media blowhards and their rat fuckers like Roger Stone for going on 50 years now. All of their musings about the values of the party of old are illusions. Their party has never been interested in a balanced budget for god's sake! They've fucked everything up each and every time they've gotten their oily hand on the levers of power and only start bitching when a Democrat takes over and has to spend all of their time and political capital cleaning up the messes created by the Republicans before them while at the same time doing everything they can possibly do to obstruct. These people have their heads so far up their own asses that that they can't see the reality of what their party has been lurching toward for half a century now. They're delusional. But, if they are going to vote for Biden and if they can convince any others of their rotten to the core party I'll take it. Who am I to look a gift horse in the mouth.