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rateyes

(17,438 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 08:26 AM Jun 2020

On renaming military bases:

Last edited Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:08 AM - Edit history (1)

I have some suggestions. BTW, this post is

Fort Bragg change to Fort Tojo
Fort Lee change to Fort Grant (that’s not so much sarcasm)
Fort Benning in GA to Fort W.T. Sherman
Fort Hood in TX to Fort Santa Anna
USMA at West Point to Benedict Arnold Military Academy

Only in America do we name Forts after defeated traitors to the Union.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. I certainly believe that the Fort in Georgia
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 08:44 AM
Jun 2020

Should be named after William T. Sherman. It would only be appropriate.

gladium et scutum

(803 posts)
18. Would be cautious about naming a fort after Sherman
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jun 2020

He refused to allow black troops to serve in his army. At the end of the war his army was the only one of several Union armies that had no USCT regiments assigned to it.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
19. Sherman had his faults no doubt
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

and there is no one without them. I however, much prefer the name of Fort William T. Sherman in the state of Georgia for all the reasons surrounding his march to the sea and his understanding of what was necessary to put an end to the insurrection.

Igel

(35,191 posts)
9. These days Sherman would be considered a war criminal.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:22 AM
Jun 2020

Targeted food supplies for the civilian population, for instance, in order to make the women and children suffer--even starve--in order to undermine moral and support for the military.

"But it was commonly accepted that it was okay at the time" is precisely the moral relativism that's so condemned when used for other things. Doesn't mean people don't flip their morals as soon as it's a justification instead of a weapon.

Docreed2003

(16,817 posts)
10. I'm not flipping my morals
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jun 2020

My comment was in response to the OP. The fact that naming a Fort in Georgia after Sherman would piss off the "heritage not hate crowd" is what I'm referencing. I'm fully aware of the brutality of Sherman both during the civil war and in the following years with his brutality towards native tribes in the "cause" of western expansion. I'm not celebrating that in any way. However, keeping a post named after an unrepentant white supremacist and vocal firebrand for slavery, which Benning was, is a slap in the face to all people of color in Georgia and in the US Army who have to train at that facility. The point of the OP was it's sarcasm, unless you're cool with a Camp Tojo in California.


hlthe2b

(101,715 posts)
7. For many years, historians have been taking another look at Grant. He is considered to be very
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jun 2020

underappreciated among the best leaders and Presidents. I don't think it appropriate to include him in this context.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
15. The history channel did a very good series on Grant. According to that
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jun 2020

documentary the former southern traitors wrote the history on Grant. General Lee goes down as this great leader but Grant beat him. Lee was was traitor and a slave owner, Grant's family were abolitionists and Grant freed the one slave he had. Like Bill Barr said it depends on who writes history he is right on that one.

Beakybird

(3,329 posts)
11. They should be named for My Little Pony characters.This would raise morale.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jun 2020

Fort Pinkie Pie
Fort Rainbow Dash
Fort Twilight Sparkle
Fort Scootaloo

Beakybird

(3,329 posts)
13. Nothing Funny!
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jun 2020

These My Little Pony characters exemplify leadership, bravery, and character. I have reached out to a liaison at the US Army, and I will report back.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
16. Does any other country honor the generals they defeated? Does Russia have a Fort Rommel,
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jun 2020

does Germany have a Fort Patton and does Japan have a Fort MacArthur? The memory of the southern traitors should have been buried with the Confederacy.

Aristus

(66,093 posts)
17. As a Texan, born-and-raised, I propose re-naming Ft Hood to Ft Murphy.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jun 2020

After famous Texan Audie Murphy.

Re-name Ft Benning as Ft Patton.

Fort Bragg as Fort Bradley.

Fort Lee, VA as Fort Grant.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
20. In LA, Fort Polk can be Fort James Carville
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

He went to school in Louisiana, so he sorta qualifies, and it would drive the Right nuts.

Yeah, he was born in GA, but went to LSU.

Yeah, he was/is a Marine, but if we don't tell him it's an Army post, he won't notice.

And, the name would drive the Right nuts.

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