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Lincoln Project ad is devastating. (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jun 2020 OP
That is a great ad Gothmog Jun 2020 #1
Don't fall for it PNW-Dem Jun 2020 #31
So we shouldn't let them help us beat Trump? flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #34
Yeah, I think we're in the "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" territory. Liberal In Texas Jun 2020 #36
+1 bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #43
It's a tactical alliance. We need it right now, and I'll happily take it. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #38
It is like the US and Great Britain joining with Stalin to beat Hitler. BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #42
Exactly. There would have been no Cold War and no America, if we hadn't allied with Stalin. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #48
I'm glad that Republicans are responsible for these Blecht Jun 2020 #2
I was going to say the same thing. UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 #3
I'm very glad to have their help right now htuttle Jun 2020 #20
They're republicans, they fight dirty and have plenty of $$$. mountain grammy Jun 2020 #27
I'd be happier if they covered his corruption soothsayer Jun 2020 #4
His corruption had been covered ad nauseum StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #7
Oh, like a wolf pack? soothsayer Jun 2020 #15
Who cares. Whatever it takes to destroy his candidacy. redstateblues Jun 2020 #17
StarfishSaver is right. This ad is being played exclusively on Fox News where they octoberlib Jun 2020 #12
Weak and useless malaise Jun 2020 #5
Yep, and it's going to drive him crazy!!! NT Bleacher Creature Jun 2020 #6
It's a great ad BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #8
The Biden campaign would never put out an ad like this but the Lincoln Project can and is octoberlib Jun 2020 #9
Great ad. And one more thing, PCIntern Jun 2020 #10
Not only that but the ads that Democrats usually come up with are done by HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #35
+1. They remember Rule #1: People vote on emotion. dalton99a Jun 2020 #45
This will get under Trump's skin ... bigly. n/t Laelth Jun 2020 #11
The toilet paper on his shoe was a nice touch. George II Jun 2020 #13
Trump is sick & he needs to resign now!...Great Ad!! Stuart G Jun 2020 #14
Weak, unfit, and shaky. 3 for 3. eom guillaumeb Jun 2020 #16
Even Carville says Wilson is a mean sumbitch demtenjeep Jun 2020 #18
Like John Nennon said "Instant Karma Gonna Get You" redstateblues Jun 2020 #19
If it's playing on Fox, Donny will see it. Tweet storm to come... captain queeg Jun 2020 #21
He'll say it's from the radical left and the Democrats and their lap dogs, lamestream media. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2020 #32
For awhile. But as his health obviously deteriorates some of them will open their eyes captain queeg Jun 2020 #39
"We're not doctors..." volstork Jun 2020 #22
That by itself is classic ... StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #24
I actually volstork Jun 2020 #25
This is good, too: George II Jun 2020 #23
This is directed solely at Trump and his Fox News viewers peggysue2 Jun 2020 #26
twitter will no longer support my browser so i cant view the ad . AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #28
Here it is on you tube DesertRat Jun 2020 #41
thanks . AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #47
i just subbed the l ps channel. thanks AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #49
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! I might have to make some Republican friends. nolabear Jun 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Grokenstein Jun 2020 #30
BOOM! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2020 #33
To air "exclusively on FOX news." herding cats Jun 2020 #37
They're running it in DC!!! Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #40
Hey, they did it to Hillary. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #44
And they're trying it with Biden DesertRat Jun 2020 #50
A revered Indian strategist named Chanakya and Chinese strategist Sun Tzu DenverJared Jun 2020 #46

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
31. Don't fall for it
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jun 2020

These people are not sincere. Their subliminal message is, "it's not the Republican party, it's Trump. We're not responsible for this mess." They are setting themselves up to come back in four years with a smart Reagan/Cheney Republican who doesn't say the shit out loud...

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
34. So we shouldn't let them help us beat Trump?
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jun 2020

Because they might beat us later? Seriously?

Here's another way of looking at it: They are gutter fighting so we can take the high road. Better now?

Liberal In Texas

(13,453 posts)
36. Yeah, I think we're in the "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" territory.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:53 PM
Jun 2020

They'll revert to form after he's out. The Lincoln Project will turn on us later.

But I agree, take the help now. Worry about them later.



Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
38. It's a tactical alliance. We need it right now, and I'll happily take it.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jun 2020

We can reassess things after the election.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
42. It is like the US and Great Britain joining with Stalin to beat Hitler.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jun 2020

After we beat tRump it is back to beating each other.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
48. Exactly. There would have been no Cold War and no America, if we hadn't allied with Stalin.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:17 AM
Jun 2020

Sometimes allies are not friends, but the alliance is still the right thing to do.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
2. I'm glad that Republicans are responsible for these
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jun 2020

The ads are slimy -- slimy ads sliming a slimy man made by a slimy organization that just happens to be a temporary ally.

3. I was going to say the same thing.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jun 2020

I wouldn't consider this ad as part of the DEM brand, but it is certainly playing dirty like the repugs do.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
20. I'm very glad to have their help right now
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:21 PM
Jun 2020

I know that they don't agree with me on a lot of things. But the things that we do seem to agree on seem to matter more than our differences in regards to Trump. For now.


mountain grammy

(26,571 posts)
27. They're republicans, they fight dirty and have plenty of $$$.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jun 2020

In the past, their venom has been against Dems, but fine with me they hate trump . They've hit me up for $$. Not a chance. All my spare cash is going to Democrats.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
4. I'd be happier if they covered his corruption
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jun 2020

But being republicans they might not find corruption offensive.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. His corruption had been covered ad nauseum
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jun 2020

They don't care.

But this ad goes straight to the heart and ego. It's telling them - with video - that their hero is sick and weak.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
15. Oh, like a wolf pack?
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jun 2020

Hmm.

Ok, who knows. Guess ‘hit him from every side’ is what’s being tried here.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. StarfishSaver is right. This ad is being played exclusively on Fox News where they
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jun 2020

edit video and cut away from Trump's frailties and missteps. They idolize Trump as this strong , macho guy when he's not.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
8. It's a great ad
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

And his physical and mental health is fair game. Gotta love all the posts from aggrieved people in multiple threads who seem to think they know what they are talking about. They do not.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
9. The Biden campaign would never put out an ad like this but the Lincoln Project can and is
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

sticking the knife in.

PCIntern

(25,347 posts)
10. Great ad. And one more thing,
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

This is why the Republicans always win when things were close. They know how to attack, they know the exact tone of voice to use, they are always right where it hurts. Democrats on the other hand, pull punches because we don’t wanna be accused of being mean. And nasty. And rotten.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
35. Not only that but the ads that Democrats usually come up with are done by
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jun 2020

committee and end up watered down and focus grouped to death until they don't offend anyone.

I much prefer the cut-throat ads groups like the Lincoln Project are doing (and why I am one of their donors) - they will actually move the needle - they are true attack ads, not spending time explaining what a great guy Biden is or why he's better, they just attack, attack, attack.

dalton99a

(81,073 posts)
45. +1. They remember Rule #1: People vote on emotion.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jun 2020

Not fact, not logic, not history. It's emotion.


 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
18. Even Carville says Wilson is a mean sumbitch
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jun 2020

when Carville calls someone else mean it is great news for us



Keep it coming Lincoln Project

captain queeg

(10,036 posts)
21. If it's playing on Fox, Donny will see it. Tweet storm to come...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:34 PM
Jun 2020

And whatever he spouts is just going to verify the premise.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
32. He'll say it's from the radical left and the Democrats and their lap dogs, lamestream media.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jun 2020

And His Deplorables will believe him as usual.

captain queeg

(10,036 posts)
39. For awhile. But as his health obviously deteriorates some of them will open their eyes
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jun 2020

It goes to that whole alpha dog thing that’s he’s portrayed for so long. Pretending to be tough and fearless. The follower cult will start abandoning him as it becomes more and more obvious he is weak. At least some.

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
26. This is directed solely at Trump and his Fox News viewers
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

In that respect, it's all good. Anything that gets under Trump's incredibly thin skin is on the mark. The Lincoln Project has shown that they will not pull punches for 2020. This is an example. Plus, it's an indictment of the media that was so willing to play up Hillary Clinton's presumed 'health issues.'

What's good for the goose is good . . . well, you know the rest.

Just glad these people are on our side in this election cycle!

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
29. AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! I might have to make some Republican friends.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jun 2020

They do NOT play! Rick Wilson wasn’t kidding.

Response to Kingofalldems (Original post)

SergeStorms

(18,903 posts)
44. Hey, they did it to Hillary.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jun 2020

Turn about is fair play, Little Donnie. Unless, of course, you can't take the heat, in which case get the hell out of the fire!

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
46. A revered Indian strategist named Chanakya and Chinese strategist Sun Tzu
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jun 2020

would not worry that these people may turn on us in 2024.

Both of them would think of surviving 2020 first and would welcome any republican group that helps us defeat Trump.

Purity test shouldn't be applied to people who are willingly voting for your side.

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