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Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:40 PM

So, is this worse than the Watergate scandal that Nixon resigned over? What do you think?

Russians paying people to kill American troops?.

.President Trump knew & did NOTHING?

Actually supported Russian leader Putin..(Putin has something on Trump???)

Worse than covering up Watergate? Or not worse than covering up Watergate...?

(my opinion)...

YES, I THINK THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN WATERGATE...

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Reply So, is this worse than the Watergate scandal that Nixon resigned over? What do you think? (Original post)
Stuart G Jun 2020 OP
Budi Jun 2020 #1
Skittles Jun 2020 #2
Stuart G Jun 2020 #8
Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #21
rzemanfl Jun 2020 #3
Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #23
moose65 Jun 2020 #36
Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #38
Glorfindel Jun 2020 #4
John Fante Jun 2020 #5
Karadeniz Jun 2020 #6
soothsayer Jun 2020 #7
Nevilledog Jun 2020 #40
edhopper Jun 2020 #9
erronis Jun 2020 #10
LakeArenal Jun 2020 #11
Stuart G Jun 2020 #14
volstork Jun 2020 #12
jalan48 Jun 2020 #13
Nevilledog Jun 2020 #15
Xolodno Jun 2020 #16
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #17
Stuart G Jun 2020 #18
Dirty Socialist Jun 2020 #19
Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #20
stillcool Jun 2020 #22
soothsayer Jun 2020 #25
soothsayer Jun 2020 #27
stillcool Jun 2020 #29
soothsayer Jun 2020 #31
ananda Jun 2020 #24
Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #26
StevieM Jun 2020 #33
Itchinjim Jun 2020 #28
leftyladyfrommo Jun 2020 #30
Hekate Jun 2020 #32
marie999 Jun 2020 #34
Paladin Jun 2020 #35
Fiendish Thingy Jun 2020 #37
relayerbob Jun 2020 #39
Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #41
Amaryllis Jun 2020 #42
hay rick Jun 2020 #43
Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #44
ElementaryPenguin Jun 2020 #45
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #46
whttevrr Jun 2020 #47
MatthewG. Jun 2020 #48

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:42 PM

1. Yes by far. Considering all the catastrophic damage that's been done.

Yes.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:44 PM

2. omg

honestly, if Watergate was ground level, TRUMP is in the STRATOSPHERE

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:47 PM

8. Yes, I agree..I watched Watergate very carefully...This is much worse and,

if proven that Trump knew..., Trump will be forced to resign....same as Nixon..

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:22 PM

21. Yep.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:44 PM

3. There were still Republicans with scruples back then.

I say impeach the motherfucker tomorrow and let the Repukes in the Senate decide which country they belong to. Oh, and there are a multitude of things Drumpf did that are worse than Watergate.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:25 PM

23. Even the ones in there now are aware...

that this is just too much. It will never end until he is gone and if he stays it will negatively effect each of their careers. I think they've had enough. Of course some will stick with him no matter what but I think a sizable number of them are going to turn on him.

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Response to Alacritous Crier (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:37 PM

36. What I can't figure out is this:

Why don’t some of them who were just re-elected in 2018 grow a spine? They won’t have an election again till 2024, when Trump and all of this will be ancient history. Why do they give a shit what Trump will say about them? They could become national heroes.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:55 PM

38. Yeah, it's nuts...

that someone so mentally, psychically and morally impoverished can hold so much sway over anyone much less the US GOP Senate. It's an embarrassment.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:45 PM

4. Of course it's worse. What has changed most is the rePuke party

In 1974 there were (a few) decent, honorable Republicans. Today there are none, and they're proud of themselves for being so loathsome.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:46 PM

5. Yes, absolutely. Watergate wouldn't even crack Trump's top 5 list.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:47 PM

6. No comparison...but remember Nixon wasn't a traitor for Watergate. He was, however, for

Engineering the cessation of Paris peace talks...thousands of US troops were killed after that.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:47 PM

7. "Makes Watergate look like a parking infraction"

...is the tweet I liked about this

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:25 PM

40. Watergate is so quaint in comparison.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:48 PM

9. Nixon was Tricky Dickey

Trump is a traitor and a criminal.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:48 PM

10. Rhetorical question, right? Yes, trump is more evil than Nixon, Benedict Arnold, satan, whichever

bogeyman scares us the most.

trump is evil incarnate.

I thought cheney was really bad. trump is far worse. I'm not sure that cheney was trying to sell out the US as trump is.

trump is particularly evil because he is easily manipulated. Even by dumbshits on fox. He doesn't know when he's being played by putin, xi, dung-ill (nork), grifters and sycophants. because he is such a f'in genius - in his pea-brain only.

ivanka and other family members are probably a tad bit smarter and are trying to milk as much as they can out of 'daddy' and the US before they need to flee.

At least during the watergate era, there were some (r)epuglicons who still cared about this country. Now it's obvious NONE OF THE REPUGLICONS CARE.

Do they think that putin is really going to take good care of them when they need to get out? Sad sacks.


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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:48 PM

11. Gawd yes. Dump's shit is ruining the world.

And supportingDictators.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:05 PM

14. I think "Dump's shit" will be gone in 2 weeks...

Hit this link & take a look at that discussion...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512568

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:49 PM

12. Far, far worse.

This is indefensible.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:55 PM

13. Yes, the country has shifted so far to the right that 70's extremists are now mainstream Republicans

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:07 PM

15. I think him simply breathing is worse than anything Nixon did.

My opinion is probably not useful.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:07 PM

16. Well, lets examine this...

Nixon;

Third rate burglary for information that all Nixon had to do was call up the Democratic leadership and ask them what they were going to do to him that day and week and would be happy to oblige.

Faces impeachment, not because of the burglary, but because of the cover up. Had he just came out and leveled when he got connected to it, that he had a political intelligence gathering group, but had no idea they were going that far. Oh and, not piss off the most of his own party. He probably could have finished his term.

Trump;

Informed that Russian intelligence agents were offering bounties to the Taliban to send US Troops back home to their parents, wives, children in boxes. And then does nothing about it....not even a phone call to Putin telling him if he goes through with this he will address it publicly, bring it up at the UN, slap sanctions, close consulates, expel diplomats, etc.

Yeap, way fucking worse.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:12 PM

17. This is not the first "worse than Watergate" scandal for Trump.

Have we forgotten about the Russian's rigging of the 2016 election? That's still being covered up.

IMO, his horrible treatment of thousands of immigrants and migrants at our Southern border is more immoral than Watergate. That's still being covered up.

Just as a couple of examples........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:15 PM

18. I agree..a couple of .."worse examples" thank you...I think this one, with Putin could destroy him

All three are equally as bad, but in different ways...good points...

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:17 PM

19. I disagree

Actually, all in all it’s a-
Nother brick in the wall

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:22 PM

20. Wonder what is happening with

 

all that Chinese money laundry proceeds going into Trumps Campaign. Oh thats right,the FEC is not a functioning entity.
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:23 PM

22. I'm not sure what to make of any of this..

Trump doesn't know jack-sh*t about most of what goes on in this country. Those that do know, certainly should have proposed action, of some kind. I would think. Nothing about this is sitting right with me.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:27 PM

25. They did. They proposed 3 or 4 options

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:34 PM

27. And here they are (from nyt story):

Snip

Officials developed a menu of potential options — starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses, but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:43 PM

29. oh...wow. Guess I better read up...

the plot thickens. Thanks for setting me straight!

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Response to stillcool (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:20 PM

31. Ha, no worries! What's important about it is that it underscores that people were expecting action

And then there was none.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:27 PM

24. Yes, much worse.

Trump's treason is killing off his own military
and country persons.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:31 PM

26. Multiple Trump scandals have been worse than Watergate

Russian interference, Ukrainian shakedown, Family separations, Covid, Lafayette Square...the measure of what is a Presidential scandal has changed for the worse.
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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:26 PM

33. That is definitely true.

But the measure of what constitutes a scandal has changed for the worse in very different ways for Democrats and Republicans.

For Republicans, they can get away with the most heinous and evil of things. Democrats, especially female Democrats, will be denounced for a terrible scandal over total nonsense.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:42 PM

28. He has a worse than Watergate scandal every day.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:18 PM

30. This is so much worse. This is unbelievable .

Not only do we have this absolutely horrible man as President we also have these awful Republicans who are just as bad covering for him.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:22 PM

32. Yes, it is. In every respect. Nixon was a terrible man, but he understood what government was for...

He understood government. And he did not commit treason.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:26 PM

34. Impeach now. n/t

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:32 PM

35. Yes, it is much worse.

Nixon had plenty of faults, but he had a functioning brain---nobody ever considered him to be a fucking lunatic. All the difference in the world.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:42 PM

37. It could be - the next 48 hrs of media coverage, and Congress response will tell.

There may be something else that ends of distracting everyone, but perhaps this story has legs.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:24 PM

39. So far worse

Makes Nixon look like a shoplifter

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:27 PM

41. Trump has done many things that are worse than watergate

and gets away with it

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:36 PM

42. Comparing this to WAtergate is like comparing drizzle to a hurricane.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:39 PM

43. Much worse than Watergate. Almost as scandalous as Obama's tan suit.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:41 PM

44. Much worse than Watergate. And Republicans came forward to bring down Nixon.

There was no "colluding" with adversaries of this country back then. With Trump, that has happened over and over again.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:43 PM

45. Nixon was a Boy Scout compared to Trump!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:43 PM

46. Absolutely

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:58 PM

47. Yes, Why is trump letting Putin put a bounty on US Troops?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

48. Far Worse than Watergate

This is far worse than Watergate.

Watergate was an unusually brazen political dirty trick that crossed the line into criminality. Politics are often dirty in ways that bend the law. That’s not an excuse, btw. Merely a point of reference.

This (“Bountygate?”) is flat-out dereliction of duty with flagrant disregard for American lives. It veers very close to treason, and may even cross the line.

If I was going to draw a comparison to Watergate in terms of moral severity, the Ukraine scandal would probably be a closer match, although I’d consider the Ukraine scandal somewhat worse than Watergate because it implicated a foreign government, also an American ally, and criminally drew it into the orbit of domestic politics.

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