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Black family forced by strangers to stop their car on allegations that it is stolen (Original Post) Progressive Law Jun 2020 OP
The guy with his hand in his jacket exboyfil Jun 2020 #1
👍 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #2
Trump sure made America great again...this is all on him! cayugafalls Jun 2020 #6
Terrorism. Raw terrorism. n/t Mister Ed Jun 2020 #3
Modern day vigilantes? I hope they are all identified and charged. Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #4
2nd part cayugafalls Jun 2020 #5
The bearded guy who opened the door apologized csziggy Jun 2020 #7
He wasn't charged? exboyfil Jun 2020 #11
No, and he should be charged csziggy Jun 2020 #12
I would treat it as a car jacking attempt exboyfil Jun 2020 #15
Ooh! I hadn't thought of that - That would be a good charge for that man csziggy Jun 2020 #21
Would he have apoogized to the family after he participated in lynching a black man Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #24
See my other post - I found Lee Allen's (the driver) post with more information csziggy Jun 2020 #27
Wish #NeverBiden wasn't the tweeter. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #8
Yeah, noticed that... CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #17
That was in Spokane, WA awhile back. It made the local news. The car was not stolen. brewens Jun 2020 #9
March 4. CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #14
Here's a facebook past asking for a local news source to do a story csziggy Jun 2020 #18
Wait? They think it's the woman's car so they do property damage to it? That sounds like bull. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #35
Yeah - any story they claim to explain their actions is bullshit csziggy Jun 2020 #37
Those are un-American Nazis. Should be arrested rockfordfile Jun 2020 #10
Ahhh, Spokane... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #13
That was ridiculous!! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #16
Yeah, cuz it was bring your kids to work day for a car thief. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #20
Apparently her car was stolen years ago by a friend Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #29
I was referring to the guy who pulled open the door. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #30
And asking on simple question - why do you think it is his car Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #31
Yup. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #34
I don't understand....... secondwind Jun 2020 #19
You got the video, the guy reaches under his coat you run him over. n/t marie999 Jun 2020 #22
they look like a bunch of inbred trash JI7 Jun 2020 #23
I agree rockfordfile Jun 2020 #32
I read the news article in post #1 and those assholes Solly Mack Jun 2020 #25
NOT advocating violence, but if this guy had been carrying a legal firearm..... albacore Jun 2020 #26
That is terrifying. salin Jun 2020 #28
What would the charges have been if these people did the same thing to a cop car with 3 cops inside? NBachers Jun 2020 #33
oh my GOODNESS........ this is like something out of a HORROR movie....... Takket Jun 2020 #36

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
1. The guy with his hand in his jacket
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

That would get you shot immediately by a cop (if you are black).

Out of the box undercharged - the woman for disorderly conduct. It looks like a failed carjacking to me. Note to "good Samaritans" unless you are attempting to prevent violence against somebody, do not take action against a person. They all need to be charged for attempted car jacking (see the man who tried to enter the vehicle).

https://www.khq.com/top_story/video-police-pursuing-charges-following-mob-attack-on-car-in-spokane-valley/article_472f0cb4-5e6f-11ea-83d7-ff91d4e4e5ae.html

cayugafalls

(5,629 posts)
6. Trump sure made America great again...this is all on him!
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jun 2020

He has emboldened the hatred and made this the new norm.

I am positive had that been a white family in the car, nothing would have happened, merely a few nice words about "I used to have a car like that...nice car" bullshit racist.

I am sick about where this country is headed.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
7. The bearded guy who opened the door apologized
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jun 2020
Man seen in viral video taken outside Spokane Valley Walmart says it was a misunderstanding

Noelle Lashley | KHQ Local News Reporter Mar 5, 2020

SPOKANE, Wash. - A man who appeared in a viral video of a father and his children facing an angry group of people near the Spokane Valley Walmart is sharing his side of the story.

Lawton Miller said he was leaving the Walmart on Sprague on Friday afternoon when he heard someone yelling.

"She said, 'he's trying to steal my car!' So I got out, walked over there and opened the door," Miller said. "I said 'hey, this lady said you're stealing her car.'"

The Spokane County Sheriff's Office said the woman believed the driver had stolen her car, but it wasn't true.

More: https://www.khq.com/news/man-seen-in-viral-video-taken-outside-spokane-valley-walmart-says-it-was-a-misunderstanding/article_595c83ac-5f47-11ea-8e30-cbb5f1db055d.html


He didn't know what the situation was and opens a car door with someone in it? Glad he got his arm slammed in the door! I think he is not trying to cover his ass since he's gotten death threats.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
12. No, and he should be charged
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jun 2020

A case I was a juror on charged the perpetrator with burglary just for reaching into a vehicle. There was a lot more to the case than that, but that added charge upped the penalties for everything else.

This guy opens the door of a car that he has no clue who the owner is - just some random woman claiming it is hers. After that, he continued to follow the car. His justification in the article seems way too contrived. He and the others who were beating on the car should all be charged if for nothing else then for terrorizing a man and his family.

Interesting how ALL the people taking up for the crazy woman were white and took her word without question that it was her car.

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
15. I would treat it as a car jacking attempt
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jun 2020

If someone is in the vehicle when you reach in it (and yell at them to exit the vehicle), it is far more than burglary.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
21. Ooh! I hadn't thought of that - That would be a good charge for that man
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jun 2020

See my post below - I found a Facebook posting by Lee Allen, the driver, from February 28 with all the videos taken and screenshots of each individual that took part in the terrorism. The bearded guy was lying through his teeth about why he followed the family as they tried to get away from that racist mob.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
24. Would he have apoogized to the family after he participated in lynching a black man
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jun 2020

because a white woman said he made sexual advances?

There is a difference in outcome, but not in the racist mentality that thinks DIY "justice" against blacks is justified.

brewens

(13,392 posts)
9. That was in Spokane, WA awhile back. It made the local news. The car was not stolen.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jun 2020

I can't remember if there were any charges over those people harassing them.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
18. Here's a facebook past asking for a local news source to do a story
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jun 2020
Lee Allen Feb 28
I went to the Walmart @ 5025 E. Sprague Ave Spokane Valley, Wa. 99212 4:30 p.m. My teenage son and daughter was with me. We bought some things, proceeded to leave the parking lot. We were approached by this lady on a bicycle screaming we had her car. She proceeded to block our exit. Out of the blue we were surrounded by 5-6 people hitting (My Car). Hitting it with bikes, kicks etc. One guy even gestured he had a gun. I decided to drive off even if the guy wouldn’t move from in front of my car. He held onto the car while I called the cops driving west on Sprague stayed on for about two miles. Another guy on a motorcycle continued to follow us and kick the side of the car screaming racial slurs. A separate car kept pulling in front of us try to stop us. The guy on the hood finally decided to hop off. The motorcycle guy bailed once I turned into Fred Myers. The car followed us into the parking lot and hid until I walked over and got their license plate. They drove off the police showed up and the rest is history.
https://www.facebook.com/KHQLocalNews/posts/3163581510340017


There are four videos, an early one shows the woman coming up to his car with a bicycle while the other people surround the car. This narration by the driver of the car shows that the bearded guy was very involved in the attack on Mr. Allen's car and was not just concerned about the man on the hood as he claimed in the newspaper story I posted above. I knew his crap was bull shit.

There are also screen shots of the various individuals who took part in this terrorism. The bearded guy, at least was doxxed and received death threats. I wonder about the rest?

There was not just harassment - an attempt to enter the car could be charged as burglary in Florida, though maybe not in Washington. With amount of beating on the car, I would not be surprised if there had been damage. Plus, the terrorism that had to have affected the kids should have been a charge.

TheBlackAdder

(28,070 posts)
35. Wait? They think it's the woman's car so they do property damage to it? That sounds like bull.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jun 2020

.

Why would they be busting up the lady's car?

.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
37. Yeah - any story they claim to explain their actions is bullshit
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:02 PM
Jun 2020

They are making shit up and since they are stupid their stories don't hold together.

Mostly that white mob is pissed that a black man has a car. Given - it's a 1994 something or other (at least that is what the woman claimed her car was that had been stolen years ago) so it's not a great car. But the woman and some of her male cohorts look the type that could not afford a car and they are jealous that a black man has one.

In other words, they are just looking for an excuse to beat up a black man. A hundred years ago it would have been an excuse to lynch a black man.

People like that make me embarrassed to be white.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
16. That was ridiculous!!
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jun 2020

And the guy who opened the door? Mind your own business!

The poor kids in that car, especially!

Nevilledog

(50,659 posts)
20. Yeah, cuz it was bring your kids to work day for a car thief.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jun 2020

No one can prove to me that these idiots have any critical thinking skills.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
29. Apparently her car was stolen years ago by a friend
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jun 2020

and has not been seen since then.

Deputies said the woman standing in front of the Green 1994 Camaro said it was her car that was stolen by a friend several years ago. Her car hasn't been seen since.

https://www.khq.com/top_story/video-police-pursuing-charges-following-mob-attack-on-car-in-spokane-valley/article_472f0cb4-5e6f-11ea-83d7-ff91d4e4e5ae.html

Can we say chop shop?

(But, no, she isn't ultimately claiming he was actively stealing it - that she could recognize her Green 1994 Camaro - and distinguish it from all the other Green 1994-ish Cameros around. Since I'm sure there was more than one in the Spokane area.)

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
31. And asking on simple question - why do you think it is his car
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jun 2020

would have avoided the entire mess.

And - it takes no critical thinking skills at all to realize she is not talking about a "live" theft. She's on a bicycle. Obviously she did not drive the car to the WalMart parking lot.

Solly Mack

(90,740 posts)
25. I read the news article in post #1 and those assholes
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jun 2020

were undercharged.

They terrorized the people in the car. They damaged the car by throwing a bike at it. That's reckless endangerment at the very least. They appeared to be ramming the car with the motorcycle. More reckless endangerment. More terrorizing and more property damage.

There were children in the car.

Assault. Multiple accounts by multiple people. The one asshole acting as if he had a gun (I don't know that he didn't) and it was reasonable for the victims to assume their lives were in danger.

No so-called misunderstanding justfies any of it.


albacore

(2,386 posts)
26. NOT advocating violence, but if this guy had been carrying a legal firearm.....
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jun 2020

... and lit somebody up with it, what would happen to him?

Takket

(21,421 posts)
36. oh my GOODNESS........ this is like something out of a HORROR movie.......
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jun 2020

that first guy standing in front of the car with his hand in his jacket ready to draw a gun....... and the people trying to open the doors... they look like zombies........ absolute scare the shit out of you zombies.....

that poor man's child is going to have PTSD from this....... every single one of those people should be locked away. even if the car WAS stolen there is NO EXCUSE for vigilante justice like that.

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