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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStone's commutation papers arrived. Dated July 10, penciled in. ??
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"I am no legal expert but pretty sure you are, and that not a lot of journalists are. I hope they are getting on this. Seems like common sense that a commute for 7 felonies is more complicated than 2pg 300 word EO. What next jfc"
**There's a good convo about this on Zoe Tillman's twitter:
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** Then there's this: Stone's appeal invalidates the commutation.
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malaise
(268,697 posts)Curious?
spanone
(135,791 posts)malaise
(268,697 posts)years ago. It was a major scandal because by law bills can't be due on a Sunday and no government document signed on a Sunday is legal.
paleotn
(17,881 posts)malaise
(268,697 posts)The announcement was made before this was signed - they are shameless
paleotn
(17,881 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)LonePirate
(13,408 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Have no idea why anyone has a beef with him.
He is in the same respected circle as many others such as LauferLaw, Lincoln's Bible@LincolnsBible, etc.
HERE: They're all dicussing the same thing with questions & legal points to make.
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LonePirate
(13,408 posts)A speculatively forged handwritten date has nothing to do with why people are speaking up about it.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Here it is yet again.
There are a lot of legal minds examining this doc for some alarming reasons. Choose whomever you prefer.
They're all discussing the same points of question.
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TheRickles
(2,047 posts)Here's the exact same phrasing from an 1809 pardon decree issued by President Madison (see lines 5-6):
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/03-01-02-0031
Budi
(15,325 posts)cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)He has no problem lying. After all, he could shoot someone and get away with it and has been lying all this time and nothing has been done about it, so he feels invincible.
Just my opinion, I'm no handwriting expert, just guessing based on the fact that he lies so much and this just seems so slimy.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,192 posts)I'm surrounded right now by parcel maps and that's the norm.
I don't see why a pardon drafted weeks in advance but waiting for the right moment for a signature should be any different.
As long as it's in ink.
Now, whether or not it needs a witness or other certification is a different matter.
Budi
(15,325 posts)They're all worth scrutiny.
They all lied to cover each others lies.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)The big, round stamp I presumed was official certification. Whether a second signature should accompany the document is a valid question. Filing stamps would not be affixed to the Whitehouse copy. Seems rather cheesy to wipe out the fine.
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)Before the day of e-filing, my usual form for court pleadings was a fill-in-the-blank for the date which I completed when I signed.
former9thward
(31,939 posts)Containing even sillier tweets.