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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. What a high level of entitlement the Russkies must have to keep rubbing our noses in this mess.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jul 2020

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Hope they remember that payback is a beach...

Caliman73

(11,693 posts)
2. It is a matter of pespective
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jul 2020

Not defending or excusing what Russia is doing at all, but "payback is a beach..." may already be what Putin is figuring on. Remember, he was a colonel in the KGB when the US basically toppled the Soviet Union. We also helped to foment some of those breakaway republics during the early Russian Federation days.

Unfortunately we have a political party in the United States that thought it was more important for them to retain power in their minority than to defend the US against geopolitical rivals.

 
7. The United States did *NOT* topple the USSR
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

Two authors wrote articles predicting the demise of the USSR because their economy was breaking down. (Rather like ours is.) Soviet economic reports were complete fantasy. The authors wrote before Reagan ran for president.

Caliman73

(11,693 posts)
8. And that economy was in a vacuum?
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jul 2020

We were in an arms race since before the end of WWII. We actively sent troops after WWI to try to help the White army. We were trying to encircle the Soviet Union with allies and breaking up the Eastern Bloc. after WWII.

Yes the Soviet economy was in shambles but not "Just Because". They were mismanaging their economy and trying to keep up with the arms race and proxy wars going on all around.

Reagan did not topple the USSR. He was just the guy in office when it began its ending.

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. The authoritarian dictator in training is getting
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:05 PM
Jul 2020

a lesson from his schoolmaster on how to beat your citizens into submission.

captain queeg

(10,036 posts)
5. Donny you are doing such a great job
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jul 2020

Thanks Vlad. You know they have been very unfair to me. I’m treated worse than anyone in american history.

Yes Donny, they are so mean to you. You are the greatest president in history.

Yes exactly. I’m so glad I can turn to you when my own countrymen are being so mean. You are the kind of person i wish I was; strong and handsome.

Oh Donny, you are handsome too. Not at all a fat pile of balding blubber like everyone thinks. And smart too, not many people could identify an elephant out of animal pictures. You are the smartest ever.

Thank you Vlad. XOXOXO. Your forever BFF.

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