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So if Trump gets drubbed in November, (Original Post) gab13by13 Jul 2020 OP
Not if malaise Jul 2020 #1
Yes StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #2
Yes, just like Ford did for Nixon. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3
Yes, that is the price Trump will exert upon us to get rid of him: CTyankee Jul 2020 #4
He can't escape the Manhattan D.A. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #10
So what is his game plan with that? CTyankee Jul 2020 #16
Whose game plan, Trump's or the D.A.'s? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #17
His. CTyankee Jul 2020 #18
I don't think he has one. He's not a strategic thinker, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #20
I just posted a "what if" scenario here to see what folks are thinking... CTyankee Jul 2020 #21
i fully expect donnie to make a ton of pardons. hell, he might pardon the entire republican party. unblock Jul 2020 #5
Only federal crimes. He's got a slew of NYS charges against him. secondwind Jul 2020 #6
Sorry, thanks, you beat me to my post. gab13by13 Jul 2020 #8
So what about Trump's state crimes? gab13by13 Jul 2020 #7
I say, "Make it so." dchill Jul 2020 #9
If this does happens, no problem for a state like New York to take care of prosecuting the turmps beachbumbob Jul 2020 #11
In Russia TEB Jul 2020 #22
Yes, but why would he? The pukes will need a scapegoat for their comradebillyboy Jul 2020 #12
that's exactly how I see it happening gopiscrap Jul 2020 #13
I can't see getting 12 people to convict him. Patterson Jul 2020 #14
I'm still inclined to think that Trump is not capable of PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #15
I'm inclined to agree. I think he believes his own bullshit most of the time, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #19
He can't be pardoned for crimes he hasn't been indicted for sboatcar Jul 2020 #23
Not Sure That's Right ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #24

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
4. Yes, that is the price Trump will exert upon us to get rid of him:
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jul 2020

he won't suffer any retribution in the courts. He'll go scot free.

That is, if he is sane enough to do this.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
10. He can't escape the Manhattan D.A.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

Pence can't pardon him for state crimes, and I'm sure he's committed almost as many violations of New York law as federal law.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
20. I don't think he has one. He's not a strategic thinker,
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jul 2020

and I doubt that he's planned for the possibility that he could be prosecuted in New York because he can't imagine it happening.

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
21. I just posted a "what if" scenario here to see what folks are thinking...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

unfortunately, I am taking a pretty strong med to control my nerve pain (Pregabalin) and trying to think straight but am really happy discussing Trump's end.

What's the damage control ahead? Biden will have massive issues to deal with. Fortunately, for us he'll be surrounded by the best and the brightest and we have them raring to go.

unblock

(51,973 posts)
5. i fully expect donnie to make a ton of pardons. hell, he might pardon the entire republican party.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

and then to resign on january 19 and let pence be president for a day for exactly this purpose.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. If this does happens, no problem for a state like New York to take care of prosecuting the turmps
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jul 2020

and New York state prisons aren't anything you want to touch. I would think trump and family leaves for Russia asap

comradebillyboy

(10,119 posts)
12. Yes, but why would he? The pukes will need a scapegoat for their
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

many failures and there is no more perfect candidate than Trump.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,746 posts)
15. I'm still inclined to think that Trump is not capable of
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

strategic thinking. It's my opinion that he honestly thinks he's doing the right thing, the best possible thing, and truly believes that any and all polls that show him not winning in a landslide truly are rigged.

The real unknown is if people around him actually understand what the situation is, and could persuade him to resign at any point. There's a distant possibility that Jared and Ivanka could, but they may well be as out of touch with reality as he is.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
19. I'm inclined to agree. I think he believes his own bullshit most of the time,
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jul 2020

or at least has decided he doesn't want to know the truth and refuses to consider it. He's always operated by the principle that whatever he wants to be true is true, which is one reason why he lies constantly, even about things that are easily proved or disproved. There is a certain amount of gaslighting involved too; but as to things like polls, his narcissism is so extreme that he probably can't wrap his mind around the reality that the polls show him losing badly. He is so obsessed with winning that he can't imagine losing.

sboatcar

(408 posts)
23. He can't be pardoned for crimes he hasn't been indicted for
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jul 2020

So as long as they don't start throwing those out til after the inauguration he's got no power.

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
24. Not Sure That's Right
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jul 2020

Per this Ford's pardon of Nixon included crimes Nixon "might have committed" against the United States.
So, it appears a pardon can cover items not yet charged.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

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