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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPussy-Grabber leads by 10 points on the economy?
Repigs always manage to win this PR war, and too many voters buy into the horse shit that repigs are financial gurus. Reagan fucked up the economy; GHW Bush fucked it up; GW Bush fucked it up, and Pussy-Grabber has done HUGE damage. This trickle down bullshit just never seems to die and has been proven to be a fucking lie time after time. What gives?
tman
(983 posts)And not just the post covid economy, but pre covid too.
It's always the economy.
somaticexperiencing
(311 posts)StevieM
(10,499 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)🤬
Buckeyeblue
(5,491 posts)Takket
(21,425 posts)dems have always focused on the buying power of the middle class and that is why the economy booms under our leadership. Rethugs simply focus on redistribution of wealth to the top and it crushes the economy but makes their donors happy.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)we are in a recession. But alas, misinformation and lies again.
JI7
(89,182 posts)But they still allowed the bs to go on so long.
still_one
(91,965 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I just saw it on CNN with Fucky Todd.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)still_one
(91,965 posts)was way out of line with other pollsters, showing less of a lead for Biden than the other pollsters
This better economy under trump is a myth which is pushed by Wall Street
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)With 74k airline employees being laid off, 300 at Rolls Royce, and numerous restaurants & retailers going under.
andym
(5,441 posts)1) Trump's narrative is that he is a phenomenally successful businessman-- never mind the reality of his bankruptcies and numerous business failures. This narrative has been created by years of self-promotion and shows like the Apprentice. Probably the most important determinant and difficult to challenge-- it's a big reason why he doesn't want the tax returns released. His tax returns would help destroy this narrative.
2) 3 years of economic growth, juiced by big corporate tax cuts-- never mind it was really the continuation of the recovery that began under Obama/Biden's economic recovery. People perceive that the success reinforces 1, the narrative.
3) Public willingness to do ANYTHING, include sacrifice American lives (think Covid-19) to push the stock market higher. Ironic, because the "anything" he has done actually has hurt the economy tremendously-- if we had headed off Covid-19 like S Korea and New Zealand we would be much better off.
So people need to hear that 1) Trump was not too successful in business-- it was all smoke and mirrors, 2) that the growth of the economy has been going on since 2009, until Trump crashed it, and 3) he doesn't get that protecting American lives actually helps the economy.
--reposted from reply to similar OP
unblock
(51,974 posts)The fiction that tax cuts help the economy is an easy sell. After all, they're basically paying people to believe it.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
$20.00 minimum wage for everyone.
Woohoo!!
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RockRaven
(14,784 posts)the economy. Is it any wonder most people are misled by a class of people who have clear financial interests in the public being misled?
For decades corporate media have treated the Dow as if it is a handy barometer for how well the economy in general is doing. Yesterday I heard someone in corporate media mention that the Dow is nearing a record high. There may be many who still think of it as a barometer and that everything is going great. Trump will run on it.
Jeebo
(2,005 posts)... and that word is "trickle". Because that's what it is, a mere trickle. That's what I've always thought whenever I've heard that term. Another thing I've always thought is, Doesn't it percolate up before it trickles down? In other words, that wealth that is in the possession of the upper economic classes was produced by people who actually WORK for a living. So rich people get it from US, it percolates up to them from OUR labors and productivity, before they let a little of it "trickle back down" to us. That's the way I've always seen it. In my own words.
-- Ron
Luciferous
(6,067 posts)exboyfil
(17,857 posts)Prior to Covid. That to get economic growth that didn't reach Obama's better years.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,410 posts)It's a testament to nonsense. It's against common sense. It's against natural law, for God's sake. Ten percent unemployment. Mass evictions on the way. Millions out of work. More millions infected. Deaths on a massive scale. Shadow inflation. People are running out of money. Food lines. Covid testing bottlenecks. Hot spots everywhere.
And Trump's approval ratings for the economy are up?
Nah.
Something's amiss here. Something's not honest.
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,260 posts)Biden&Harris momentum was growing too fast and the horse race AKA MSM ad buys were going to suffer so an adjustment has been made.
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)The term he proudly brags about evokes a visceral reaction. We NEED that visceral reaction to motivate GOTV.
We need women SEETHING with anger. So angry that they will do anything necessary to vote, AND convince as many like-minded women friends, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, significant others TO SUPPORT them. We need them ALL to be angry enough to spit nails, when filling out the ballot.
HE said it. We are using HIS words against him.
Yes, it is an affront to every woman on the planet, and hopefully that is the way it is taken, in these contexts.
Anything that will make the pure sexist, misogynistic, racist, antisemitic, homophobic intentions obvious to others, is worth it. We (any of the offended parties) need to be willing to take one for the team to get rid of this monumental POS.
We DON'T need to put lipstick on THIS pig (make it politically correct).
As HE said.... It IS What It Is. Let's tie it around his neck and drown him with it.
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)more accurate, not a cutsey for men to giggle at while using, and much more reality based not at the expense of women. But thank you for the answer. That being said, we are not throwing out the n word at every opportunity talking about his racism. No way we would use the power of that word at the expense of blacks.
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)****Freshness Guaranteed**** YOU GOV LIKELY VOTER NAT'L POLL Biden 52% Trump 42%
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PZk2TziNsU0tv0YI_77lY3RGnqM1eq9N/view
Breaking: New NBC-Wall Street Journal poll
Biden-Harris 50%
The Con-Mother's Boy 41%
Biden-Harris lead in all the issues
Notice the NBC/WSJ poll...on all issues
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)It is still popular though.
Poisoning our kids created jobs. Haven't you heard?
Grasswire2
(13,564 posts)I always go for the trend numbers and averages.
][link:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval_economy-6182.html|
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)it is very tight right now between Trump/Biden on how people think either will do with economy
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I didn't mean that Trump s leading. . . I meant that voters prefer Trump on the ECONOMY but not overall. . . Sorry I wasn't more clear.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,156 posts)there's:
https://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/election-advantage-stays-biden-enthusiasm-deficit-eases-remains/story?id=72356854
You seem to have found an outlier.
ProfessorGAC
(64,425 posts)So, perhaps Chuckie is the cherry picker. Which of course, wouldn't surprise anybody here.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I was just noting how ridiculous that is if voters DO believe that. . . I've been voting since the 1960s, and even when Dems win, we hear so often that voters prefer the REPIGS on the economy. . . It doesn't make sense.
ProfessorGAC
(64,425 posts)But, there are other polls showing no such advantage for PINO.
I'm suggesting Chickie Todd cherry picked an outlier poll to stir up some noise.
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,081 posts)If this is the CNN poll, I'm calling bad sample
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)What they meant is that IN GENERAL, voters prefer Trump versus Biden ON THE ECONOMY, not that Trump leads Biden. Polls still s how Biden with clear lead. They meant generically, and we always hear this. I was just questioning why voters would feel this way with the disasters repigs have created financially. Sorry for the confusion.
Happy Hoosier
(7,081 posts)Though for some reason, a lot of people seems to give Trump credit for being good with the economy. I don't get it. The man is an idiot.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)He is the worst of the worst of the worst.
And I am GLAD to hear that several polls are not indicating this. . . . !