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mzmolly

(51,685 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:15 AM Aug 2020

Opinion - Why Trump is unlikely to pull off an election surprise against Biden ... Market Watch

Can President Donald Trump do it again? Will he be able to convince enough undecided or uncommitted voters to give him another four years in office?

At the moment the short answer is “No”.

Looking just at the 2020 polls, an election observer could be forgiven for thinking that former Vice President Joe Biden has an easy path to unseating Trump. Yet few prognosticators are proclaiming an impending Biden victory. Perhaps this is because, despite a similar deficit in the summer of 2016, then-candidate Trump surprised everyone with an election night victory over his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

A big part of that 2016 story is late-deciding voters decisively breaking towards Trump, potentially handing him victory and several swing states. One post-election analysis (APPOR 2016 Post-Election Report) found that Trump gained an average of 1% nationally and 3% in four swing states due to outperforming Clinton among the roughly one-in-eight voters making their decision in the week before Election Day.


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This year, undecided voters are more likely to be female, less likely to have a college degree, more likely to be younger, and are more likely to be a person of color.


More at: MARKET WATCH

Interesting analysis.
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Opinion - Why Trump is unlikely to pull off an election surprise against Biden ... Market Watch (Original Post) mzmolly Aug 2020 OP
I certainly hope so! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #1
Agree! mzmolly Aug 2020 #3
"Late-deciding voters in 2016". Aristus Aug 2020 #2
Hear hear! mzmolly Aug 2020 #4
The question is, why are THEY STILL UNDECIDED voters? hlthe2b Aug 2020 #5
Right?! mzmolly Aug 2020 #8
Those are favorable factors. Whether thats enough to assume 'unlikely', is a second question. empedocles Aug 2020 #6
Far more realistic analysis other than the simple one offered by Michael Moore's 'Oh, I'm seeing the SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #7
Moore always predicts mzmolly Aug 2020 #9
I agree. Moore needs to realize that his time/shot to be relevant is already gone, wasted by him in SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #10
Then, if he's wrong.... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #13
I'll always give most of the blame to Comey.... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #11
I agree. mzmolly Aug 2020 #12
Comey had help. The media rushed to predict that Hillary would be indicted days before election. yardwork Aug 2020 #14
There are not any undecided voters this time around. Doug.Goodall Aug 2020 #15
Undecided young females w/out college degree BlueWavePsych Aug 2020 #16

Aristus

(68,515 posts)
2. "Late-deciding voters in 2016".
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
Aug 2020

I tell you, if I ever meet one of those sick, vile, disgusting, brainless, warthog turds who voted for Trump to "shake things up", I will visit upon him a thrashing that will make the Battle of Stalingrad look like a schoolyard pushy-pushy...

SWBTATTReg

(24,245 posts)
7. Far more realistic analysis other than the simple one offered by Michael Moore's 'Oh, I'm seeing the
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

same thing turning for trump in 2020 (like I did in 2016)'. First of all, Moore is a publicity hound obviously (IMHO). Announcing that trump is on path to winning in 2020 too like he did ranks of gross incompetence as a news reporter, trying to make the news instead of simply reporting on it. And making the prediction despite a flood of corrected polls (in 2020 vs. the flawed ones in 2016) that show Biden up in almost every damn one of them, by solid numbers.

A publicity hound, don't pay attention to Moore, his flash in the pan is gone and done with.

mzmolly

(51,685 posts)
9. Moore always predicts
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:28 AM
Aug 2020

doom and gloom. He should stick to film making vs. his crystal ball bullshit.

SWBTATTReg

(24,245 posts)
10. I agree. Moore needs to realize that his time/shot to be relevant is already gone, wasted by him in
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:37 AM
Aug 2020

his poor timing, etc. Too much exposure doesn't help either.

SergeStorms

(19,312 posts)
11. I'll always give most of the blame to Comey....
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:37 AM
Aug 2020

for Trump's victory. 10 days before the election he announces another investigation into Hillary's emails after discovering some of them on Weiner's computer. He has no evidence that's anything's amiss, he just sees them on Weiner's computer and his big mouth starts flapping. Of course there's nothing new with those emails, they'd all been examined before and there was nothing illegal about them, but by opening his gaping maw he sows enough doubt in some voter's minds to swing the election.

And then there's Donny's buddy Vlad. His lies and distortions throughout the internet also put many people off about Hillary. I don't think any woman in history has had more lies and distortions directed at her than Hillary Clinton.

Added together, those two heinous acts cost Hillary more than enough votes to swing the election to The Orange Asshole.

mzmolly

(51,685 posts)
12. I agree.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:39 AM
Aug 2020

I'm sure they'll pull some shit again, but hopefully the electorate will be focused on real news and issues.

yardwork

(64,602 posts)
14. Comey had help. The media rushed to predict that Hillary would be indicted days before election.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

It was an absolutely disgraceful episode in American history. I blame the New York Times.

Doug.Goodall

(1,241 posts)
15. There are not any undecided voters this time around.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
Aug 2020

Joe Biden is beating Trump, and that is not going to change before election day.

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