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Takket

(21,425 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 02:53 PM Sep 2020

Serious legal question

Can drumpf be charged with manslaughter for intentionally downplaying the virus directly Leading to deaths? I know you can’t charge a president simply because people died from something legitimately beyond their control, but everything indicates he not only botched the response but literally tried on purpose to hinder it which directly lead to more deaths than were necessary.

Manslaughter?

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elleng

(130,156 posts)
2. No.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

'the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.'

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. Theretically, yes. But as Kirschner knows the standard
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:15 PM
Sep 2020

for successfully prosecuting and proving gross negligence is extremely high, so high as to be almost impractical except in the most obvious cases. So practically speaking, I doubt it.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
6. And we're talking about Trump, the one guy the should be held
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:17 PM
Sep 2020

responsible ... but past history tells us that he will escape the law again.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
7. He needs to be held to acccount, no question.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:20 PM
Sep 2020

But talking about bringing a charge that has about zero prospect of success isn't the way to do it.

JT45242

(2,173 posts)
5. I think civil suits for wrongful deaths (class action would be great)
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:15 PM
Sep 2020

A jury could determine that Trump's actions led by Jared's contributions (it will only affect blue states) contributed XX% to the wrongful deaths, Let's just 25% of the reason was the pair.

Let's say that the actual costs (hospital, funeral, etc), lost wages, pain and suffering are $1 million per person (on the low end for these types of suits, but many of the victims were older). That would put them on the hook for $250,000 per person multiply that by the 500,000 who will be dead when he leaves office and you would have Jared and Don Sr on the hook for $1,250,000,000,000 if all the families signed on to the class action law suit. Let's say only 10% sign up, that would still be 125 billion.

If I were a class action lawyer, I would be thinking about where I might be able to start this lawsuit.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
8. I would like the pollsters to have a poll that asks whether Trump should be
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:24 PM
Sep 2020

charged with gross negligence by omission causing COVID deaths of so many.

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