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If Roe fell, abortion rights would only be protected in less than half the states. Even more at (Original Post) still_one Sep 2020 OP
Actually, J_William_Ryan Sep 2020 #1
Such a great post. OnDoutside Sep 2020 #6
+++ still_one Sep 2020 #8
Their objective is not to just reverse Roe. It is to equate abortion with infanticide. Klaralven Sep 2020 #2
Exactly. And every miscarriage is investigated and likely prosecuted as murder. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #3
No doubt enforced selectively Walleye Sep 2020 #4
Driving those RED States into further economic collapse as each extra child adds over $320K in costs TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #5
Those and the ability of gays to marry, religious zealots making rules, etc apcalc Sep 2020 #7

J_William_Ryan

(1,736 posts)
1. Actually,
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:56 AM
Sep 2020

This was the case when Kennedy retired.

What will happen is that the fight for civil rights, privacy rights, worker rights, and environmental protections will move from the judicial process to the political process, where the courts – the Supreme Court in particular – will no longer be the means by which those disadvantaged and discriminated against might seek relief.

The fight must move from the court house to the ballot box – it will be imperative that Democrats organize, advocate, and vote.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. Their objective is not to just reverse Roe. It is to equate abortion with infanticide.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:33 AM
Sep 2020

If the Supreme Court determines that the fetus has the full rights and protection of a human, then abortion becomes murder across the US.

States rights do not apply.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
5. Driving those RED States into further economic collapse as each extra child adds over $320K in costs
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:58 AM
Sep 2020

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You can't put a price on life, actually you can. Every extra birth, above the stasis drives up taxes.

Between education, childcare, medical costs, food supplements, those who can afford to get abortions will, which places the lion's share of births on lower-income families that will have a higher demand for public assistance.


All of those tax-saving fiscal conservatives will do is drive up their local and state property taxes and put their hand out for more federal socialism. Rick Perry tried this shit years ago and in less than one year over 7,000 extra births resulted. It was so bad, he abandoned it. Imagine the simple compounding of just 10,000 extra births each and every year at a cost of $320K per kid over 18 years.


Example: 10K kids per year for 18 years will add $3.2 billion to the state tax requirements.


Year 1) 10000 x $12,000/year (birthing, food, heat, utilities, medical costs, daycare, etc.) = $120,000,000 increased taxes
Year 2) Now 20,000 x $12,000/year = $240M
Year 3) Now 30,000 x 12,000/year = $360M
Year 4) $360M + (10000 x $18000/year) (as education starts to kick in) = $360M + $180M = $540M
Continue compounding $180M each year until the oldest kids become emancipated.

And the above example is in 2019 numbers, not adjusted for costs and inflation.

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