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Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:55 PM

How long, realistically, will the ACA be dropped completely

after the court kills it in Nov? Will the health insur companies wait until Jan1, 2020 or will it take place immediately after their ruling?

Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) Tweeted:
Every Republican Senator that votes to fill Ginsburg's seat is voting to kick millions of Americans off their health care in the middle of a pandemic.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:00 PM

1. This is important. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:02 PM

2. They are arguing that since they effectively took out the individual mandate zeroing out a tax penal

they claim the coverage requirement is unconstitutional, making the rest of the ACA also unlawful

The argument ignores that Congress' choice to leave the ACA intact when it zeroed out the tax penalty.

I would like to think they don't have a very strong case, but who knows anymore


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Response to still_one (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:08 PM

4. The buzz is that Kavanaugh interprets it that way...

But we'll see.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:03 PM

3. That tweet is nonsensical

The ACA is *already* toast, no matter if RBG seat is filled.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:10 PM

5. I actually don't think that will happen.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:15 PM

6. a couple of things

First, a tie does let the lower court ruling stand but it only stands for the circuit it is in (which ever one Texas is in). Second, the case, while it will be argued in Nov, will likely not be decided until June. It also could well be reargued for the new justice especially if the 8 are tied.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:16 PM

7. ACA

Gorsuch seems to have a bit of integrity. He seems like a serious person with a a streak of independence. Besides Roberts, I think Gorsuch is our best hope to rule to uphold the ACA.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:20 PM

8. People do understand ALL Americans lose preexisting clause protection and caps, right?

Other than Medicare (They will take that later) this applies period...

To date I dont think a lot of folks understand that ALL improvements under ACA apply to ALL Americans.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:22 PM

10. I didn't know that!

So we are all screwed by this ruling, not just those with ACA insur?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:25 PM

11. ACA applies to all insurance...always has. You get preventive care for free, for instance, not

anymore.

Caps were removed so you couldnt go broke, now you can and will.

I think they will consider covid a preexisting condition and NOBODY might have coverage for it...anything is possible with traitors who are actually, for real, trying to kill you.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:22 PM

9. Have they plans to replace the ACA, or just let it run out like Social Security/Medicare?

In that case there will be zero funds to implement any health plan except for the Trump Healthcare Plan which so far is just a big fat F. YOU.

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Response to Budi (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:26 PM

12. This time next year they will be killing SS and Medicare

but hey Hillary gave a speech.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:39 PM

13. Yup, we sure dodged a bullet in 2016! 🤪

Thank god all those TV News shows & social media accts spread the word 24/7.
Imagine where we'd be now! WHEW!

--------------(pissed off sarcasm not-smiley thingy)

They're still at it with Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer & the Democratic Party.
And all still spreading the propaganda of Vladimer Putin.

Funny thing how they've all become millionnares because of it too. Lucky them! "You too can be a millionare! Just buy my step by step how-to book"

They were all complicit in fking this country forever, & laughed all the way to the bank. Yes they did. 🤬

These guys ➡️ ⚘...









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