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intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:48 PM Oct 2020

Was there ever any evidence of live virus in Trump?

This is all so bizarre, I'm now wondering if he somehow got ahold of some dead virus (easy enough to do) and used that on his test swab to show he had it.

Yeah, his insanity is contageous.

I would not put it past him, at all.

So my question is: how do we know that he ever actually had any LIVE virus?

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Was there ever any evidence of live virus in Trump? (Original Post) intrepidity Oct 2020 OP
Oh, good lawd. demmiblue Oct 2020 #1
Is it easier for them to just lie about the positive test at first or the lack of live virus right Claustrum Oct 2020 #2
There's no evidence he ever tested positive. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2020 #3
It's hard to imagine them doing all they have without evidence of testing intrepidity Oct 2020 #5
What about all the people around Trump who now have it? Initech Oct 2020 #4
I've been thinking they're faking their test results in order to get into the cool kids club. NT enough Oct 2020 #8
Or do they? intrepidity Oct 2020 #11
There could have been a legitimate outbreak TheRealNorth Oct 2020 #21
Everything Trump does is a constant, never-ending shit show. Initech Oct 2020 #25
Yes. Stop this shit. octoberlib Oct 2020 #6
I will when they do nt intrepidity Oct 2020 #12
My understanding of the PCR test that is used to detect the presence of the virus The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2020 #7
Technically, a positive test only means viral particles are present intrepidity Oct 2020 #22
No, he has plenty of live virus FakeNoose Oct 2020 #9
There is no universe in which getting/faking the disease is anything but disastrous for Trump. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #10
Jesus, are you even watching?? intrepidity Oct 2020 #14
Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Oct 2020 #15
Him surviving this, all pumped up on elites-only drugs, makes him look even more evil. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #18
I didn't need any troll farm. I said this from the second I heard about it. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2020 #23
Virus is not actually considered to be alive to begin with. LisaL Oct 2020 #13
"Live" able to replicate nt intrepidity Oct 2020 #16
PCR test doesn't tell you if the virus is live. LisaL Oct 2020 #19
what the doc said, suggests that they tried to culture intrepidity Oct 2020 #24
Or he is double speaking. LisaL Oct 2020 #27
Valid point nt intrepidity Oct 2020 #28
We've been scammed, again. Loge23 Oct 2020 #17
He was given drugs, Mayo clinic followed what was done for their research, devastating for Trump LizBeth Oct 2020 #20
The one thing, out of all of this, that i support, was Trump being used as a lab rat intrepidity Oct 2020 #26
And that he was fool enough to willingly allow yelling, more more more. That is funny. LizBeth Oct 2020 #29

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. Is it easier for them to just lie about the positive test at first or the lack of live virus right
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:51 PM
Oct 2020

now than trying to fake that dead virus before?

BlueTsunami2018

(3,449 posts)
3. There's no evidence he ever tested positive.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:52 PM
Oct 2020

Call me a tin foil hatter all you want, I don’t buy any of this for a second. Does anyone really think he wouldn’t fake this to make himself look strong while simultaneously erasing all the horrible news from last week?

intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
5. It's hard to imagine them doing all they have without evidence of testing
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:55 PM
Oct 2020

but what I'm pointing out is that if you have a stash of dead virus that you can shove up your nose, your tests will be positive for awhile.

However, you will never be able to grow that virus in culture.

intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
11. Or do they?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:58 PM
Oct 2020

How sinister would it have been to plant a bunch of dead virus around to get exactly this scenario?

TheRealNorth

(9,425 posts)
21. There could have been a legitimate outbreak
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:05 PM
Oct 2020

Imagine what the story would have been if Trump hadn't come down with Covid.... it would have been about the irresponsible behavior. Instead, we got this dog and pony shitshow.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,070 posts)
7. My understanding of the PCR test that is used to detect the presence of the virus
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:57 PM
Oct 2020

by looking for its RNA, is not whether the virus is "live" or not (viruses aren't really alive in the same sense as bacteria) but whether there are enough of them for the person to be infectious. So the notion of "dead" or "live" viruses isn't really relevant. If he had a positive test, which they said he did, that means he carried enough of a viral load to be infectious.

intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
22. Technically, a positive test only means viral particles are present
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:08 PM
Oct 2020

it does not say anything about the actual infectivity of the sample.

FakeNoose

(32,202 posts)
9. No, he has plenty of live virus
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:57 PM
Oct 2020

He's been to too many big rallies and large superspreader events. It's really confounding that it took this long for him to catch it.



lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. There is no universe in which getting/faking the disease is anything but disastrous for Trump.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:58 PM
Oct 2020

This outlandish Russian troll farm story needs to stop.

Trump's admission of being sick/weak was the most humiliating moment of his filthy life. It's catastrophic for his re-election hopes.

LisaL

(44,961 posts)
15. Oh for crying out loud.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:02 PM
Oct 2020

We don't know that he actually "beat" the virus.
He is going to the White House, where he can continue the treatments.
Get a freaking clue.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Him surviving this, all pumped up on elites-only drugs, makes him look even more evil.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Oct 2020

And continuing to try to infect as many people as possible just amplifies the evil image that caused him to suffer a 6-point drop in the post-debate polls.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,449 posts)
23. I didn't need any troll farm. I said this from the second I heard about it.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:09 PM
Oct 2020

They lie about literally every single thing. Do you seriously think he wouldn’t go to these lengths? That they wouldn’t manufacture this entire crises to hog the news cycles and erase all the horrific news from last week? He doesn’t look weak, he’s going to pretend to be tough as nails having easily defeated the dreaded covid. “It’s not that bad, it’s just a cold and look at the miracle cures I helped usher in!” Sleepy Joe could never have beaten it and blah blah blah....

LisaL

(44,961 posts)
13. Virus is not actually considered to be alive to begin with.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:59 PM
Oct 2020

So I haven't a clue what this doctor was talking about.

LisaL

(44,961 posts)
19. PCR test doesn't tell you if the virus is live.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Oct 2020

So the old doc is double speaking and not answering questions by providing bogus answers.

intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
24. what the doc said, suggests that they tried to culture
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:11 PM
Oct 2020

if they tried to culture virus from him, the doc would say what he did

LisaL

(44,961 posts)
27. Or he is double speaking.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:14 PM
Oct 2020

There is no evidence of a live virus because PCR tests they do don't provide evidence of a live virus.
So there can never be evidence of a live virus if all they did is PCR tests.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
17. We've been scammed, again.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:03 PM
Oct 2020

The whole fiasco has been one big marketing campaign - which is really the only thing that the IPOTUS is skilled in.
There was, allegedly, one test and one test only. Who saw that test? Conley??
All of the other MD's on the pressers are simply props and in due time, they will start talking too.

So is it or isn't it? Well, who knows. But clearly we should all be aware of how easy this would be to pull off by this bunch.

There has been no collaborating evidence that he was indeed sick at all. It should be evident by anyone with a brain that he clearly never was seriously sick if he was ever sick at all.
The videos, the parade, the tweets ( the lack thereof on Friday) - all suggest a well-coordinated campaign to steer the direction of the news.

Now he comes out with the piece de résistance - COVID is no problem! It's nothing! Take the masks off, open up the schools, back to work everyone! Motive, folks, motive. The bonus play is to show that he's more than a paper strong man - he's the strongest man!

Scammed. Again.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
20. He was given drugs, Mayo clinic followed what was done for their research, devastating for Trump
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Oct 2020

regardless of whether he has it or does not have it.

Trump has offended, disgusted, outraged the nation every step of the way.

intrepidity

(7,228 posts)
26. The one thing, out of all of this, that i support, was Trump being used as a lab rat
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:13 PM
Oct 2020

i doubt that anybody has gotten the combo of therapeutics he has

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
29. And that he was fool enough to willingly allow yelling, more more more. That is funny.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

That is a good angle to see this.

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