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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWas there ever any evidence of live virus in Trump?
This is all so bizarre, I'm now wondering if he somehow got ahold of some dead virus (easy enough to do) and used that on his test swab to show he had it.
Yeah, his insanity is contageous.
I would not put it past him, at all.
So my question is: how do we know that he ever actually had any LIVE virus?
demmiblue
(36,712 posts)Claustrum
(4,845 posts)now than trying to fake that dead virus before?
BlueTsunami2018
(3,449 posts)Call me a tin foil hatter all you want, I dont buy any of this for a second. Does anyone really think he wouldnt fake this to make himself look strong while simultaneously erasing all the horrible news from last week?
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)but what I'm pointing out is that if you have a stash of dead virus that you can shove up your nose, your tests will be positive for awhile.
However, you will never be able to grow that virus in culture.
Initech
(99,881 posts)Collateral damage?
enough
(13,231 posts)intrepidity
(7,228 posts)How sinister would it have been to plant a bunch of dead virus around to get exactly this scenario?
TheRealNorth
(9,425 posts)Imagine what the story would have been if Trump hadn't come down with Covid.... it would have been about the irresponsible behavior. Instead, we got this dog and pony shitshow.
Initech
(99,881 posts)He's a walking, talking embarrassment.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)intrepidity
(7,228 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,070 posts)by looking for its RNA, is not whether the virus is "live" or not (viruses aren't really alive in the same sense as bacteria) but whether there are enough of them for the person to be infectious. So the notion of "dead" or "live" viruses isn't really relevant. If he had a positive test, which they said he did, that means he carried enough of a viral load to be infectious.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)it does not say anything about the actual infectivity of the sample.
FakeNoose
(32,202 posts)He's been to too many big rallies and large superspreader events. It's really confounding that it took this long for him to catch it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This outlandish Russian troll farm story needs to stop.
Trump's admission of being sick/weak was the most humiliating moment of his filthy life. It's catastrophic for his re-election hopes.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)Him surviving this and looking like superman is bad for him?
LisaL
(44,961 posts)We don't know that he actually "beat" the virus.
He is going to the White House, where he can continue the treatments.
Get a freaking clue.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And continuing to try to infect as many people as possible just amplifies the evil image that caused him to suffer a 6-point drop in the post-debate polls.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,449 posts)They lie about literally every single thing. Do you seriously think he wouldnt go to these lengths? That they wouldnt manufacture this entire crises to hog the news cycles and erase all the horrific news from last week? He doesnt look weak, hes going to pretend to be tough as nails having easily defeated the dreaded covid. Its not that bad, its just a cold and look at the miracle cures I helped usher in! Sleepy Joe could never have beaten it and blah blah blah....
LisaL
(44,961 posts)So I haven't a clue what this doctor was talking about.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)LisaL
(44,961 posts)So the old doc is double speaking and not answering questions by providing bogus answers.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)if they tried to culture virus from him, the doc would say what he did
LisaL
(44,961 posts)There is no evidence of a live virus because PCR tests they do don't provide evidence of a live virus.
So there can never be evidence of a live virus if all they did is PCR tests.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)Loge23
(3,922 posts)The whole fiasco has been one big marketing campaign - which is really the only thing that the IPOTUS is skilled in.
There was, allegedly, one test and one test only. Who saw that test? Conley??
All of the other MD's on the pressers are simply props and in due time, they will start talking too.
So is it or isn't it? Well, who knows. But clearly we should all be aware of how easy this would be to pull off by this bunch.
There has been no collaborating evidence that he was indeed sick at all. It should be evident by anyone with a brain that he clearly never was seriously sick if he was ever sick at all.
The videos, the parade, the tweets ( the lack thereof on Friday) - all suggest a well-coordinated campaign to steer the direction of the news.
Now he comes out with the piece de résistance - COVID is no problem! It's nothing! Take the masks off, open up the schools, back to work everyone! Motive, folks, motive. The bonus play is to show that he's more than a paper strong man - he's the strongest man!
Scammed. Again.
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)regardless of whether he has it or does not have it.
Trump has offended, disgusted, outraged the nation every step of the way.
intrepidity
(7,228 posts)i doubt that anybody has gotten the combo of therapeutics he has
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)That is a good angle to see this.