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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are Trump and his camp pushing that he's winning? Won't that cause some of
his base not to bother to vote?
don't tell them that.
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)They're hoping that it keeps them motivated to vote. If they know he's going to lose, they're less likely to show up.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)This is why Democrats should not shy away from predicting victory. While over confidence leading to complacency can be problematic, honest straight forward confidence is not, it is a psychological tool among other things. The scent of victory is driving Democratic turnout, not the opposite.
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)Biden could be predicted to win by 20 points and I think people would still show up.
I'm not sure complacency (as opposed to apathy) is really ever much of an issue for leading campaigns. People naturally like to back a winner, even if subconsciously.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)PTSD from 2016 IMO, and for this race I don't think that is productive.
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)This is nothing like 2016, of course. It's more like 2018. But I can't really blame people for being a bit hesitant, especially if internal polls are showing it closer than it appears (which is possible; no idea, really). There's also some concern that there aren't enough quality state polls available in some areas so races that appear to be solid may not be entirely so.
All that being said, Biden has been trending upward, Trump's approval/disapproval has been historically stable, and there's little reason to believe that there's more than a few percent of voters that are even considering a switch this late. I personally think that the only question remaining is the margin of victory on the EC side, barring an unprecedented event.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)they vote or not. The messaging has to remain this is close or we have a narrow leader. TOTAL FABRICATION
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)100% that.
Planting the seeds of doubt so that he can spew his bullshit claims of fraud when the time comes, and his cult of racist fuckheads will swallow it down like all the other diarrhea he squirts down their eager throats.
And, do the lurking fuckheads from various KKKonservative cesspits online: go fuck yourselves.
It's not going to work, but that's what he's trying to do.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)Claustrum
(4,845 posts)They like to be bully and want to know that they are backing the winner. That's why they are 10x more loud since Trump won. If they know Trump is losing or is a "loser", they will leave.
grumpyduck
(6,199 posts)SharonClark
(10,005 posts)grumpyduck
(6,199 posts)that the election was stolen due to fraud.
And of course counting on them to only listen to Fox, it at all. IOW, that they're morons.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)The SC gambit is based on the fraud. The fraud that caused him to lose. Lose by HUGE MARGINS!!!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...demotivates.
That is exactly the opposite of the truth.
There is a small window between, say (voter-dependent) -3 and +3 points, where voters are motivated. Below that, it seems out of reach; above that, it seems other voters will take care of it. In that zone, we feel we have influence.
honest.abe
(8,556 posts)This will motivate many of our people to show up that might not have.
Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)they want to believe that the shit they're doing is OK because that mythical silent majority supports it, when in fact the majority of Americans don't support Trump and his bullshit but usually are too disconnected and apathetic to vote about it.
It is looking like the public is waking up and swarming to the polls.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)And we gonna sting some turd ass (along with all his dingleberries), BIG TIME!!!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Great point!
Eyeball_Kid
(7,410 posts)GET OUT OF THE WAY!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)crickets
(25,896 posts)Never forget the brave Antifa submariners at Dumbkirk!
duforsure
(11,882 posts)Just like his projecting his actions onto others, and using propaganda instead of the truth.
Volaris
(10,260 posts)His gonna claim this till polls close, and then raise the bullshit question 'how did I lose...I couldnt have it must be rigged like I been saying all along.'
Get ready. Even a landslide in the EC wont be rid of him of his own volition...
jcgoldie
(11,584 posts)You cant claim it was all a fake mail in ballot hoax when you lose if everyone believes you were losing all along.