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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow is Trump doing better in Florida than in 2016
And so outperforming the polls?
Makes you question the results.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Theyll figure out why pretty soon and adjust, but really weve got to stop putting any faith in the polls until they prove they can be consistent and accurate.
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)EarlG
(21,885 posts)in Miami-Dade for months now.
Voters susceptible to the "Biden is a socialist" message have been hammered with propaganda in Spanish-language media all summer.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)But on 538 the final poll average had Joe up by 4 or so in FL. Hes down by 3. Thats a big swing - bigger than just the Cubans.
Something is rotten with these polls.
We still have a good shot with MI, PA, and WI but its gonna be much closer than was forecast.
exboyfil
(17,857 posts)It sounds like the Cuban-American relationship wasn't handled the best, but I don't see how it accounts for what is we are seeing.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and made inroads with other Latinx groups.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)It took him 8 years to soften US-Cuban relations when he could've been working hard to resolve it. If the embargo was lifted the picture would be a lot different and right wing American Cuban's would have been effectively neutered.
dameatball
(7,380 posts)"communist/socialist" type regimes. Cubans alone are not a majority when it comes to Hispanics in Florida. They may be the largest single segment but there are many others.
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)fishwax
(29,146 posts)Meanwhile Biden is underperforming Clinton there.
Nikki Haley (I think it was) said that most of the money that the trump campaign spent in florida in recent days was spent on cuban radio. Apparently it paid off in bringing out conservative cuban-Americans in Miami-Dade as well as Broward (where he picked up another 70k over 2016) and Palm Beach (50k more than 2016).
Todd79
(166 posts)They hate socialism, which is why Bernie got absolutely clobbered in the state in the primaries. Trump tied Biden to the Bernie wing of the party and Biden being Obamas VP when we opened relationships with the other Castro.
MaryMagdaline
(6,849 posts)Miami-Dade has fears of socialists but also extreme reliance on tourism. Younger population in Miami-dade not fearing death but fearing more shut downs.
Also, Florida culturally, is on par with the rude disgusting man in the WH. his behavior does not bother them. Love for the strong man, no aversion to drugs and cheating. This (my) state is not a state that believes in strong moral character. Not even an issue.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)With Hispanic populations.
'Weve got to stop the bleeding': Democrats sound alarm in Miami
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/29/miami-voter-turnout-democrats-433643