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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuess who contacted the two GOP Wayne County members right before they said they want to rescind???
Link to tweet
Channeling @BrendanNyhan, what you say if you saw this in another country.
"I am Jack's complete lack of surprise"
EDIT: OH MY!!!
Guess who's in legal trouble over a 501(c)4??
Wayne County Ethics Board says pro-Trump election official Monica Palmer could face jail time
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/wayne-county-ethics-board-says-pro-trump-election-official-monica-palmer-could-face-jail-time/34197/
Me.
(35,454 posts)if anyone is going to make it impossible for JB to just move along it will be the villain himself
C_U_L8R
(44,897 posts)dalton99a
(81,097 posts)struggle4progress
(118,043 posts)live love laugh
(13,014 posts)paleotn
(17,783 posts)Not all that different from this motely collection of scum.
My father is still spinning in his grave, along with the rest of his generation. Like Woody Guthrie's guitar, dad was a machine that killed fascists.
iluvtennis
(19,763 posts)Marcuse
(7,403 posts)RussellCattle
(1,506 posts)...."Stop Jewish Domination of Christian Americans" is no surprise. The one on the left that says "Read America's Fearless Press" surprised me until I realized it was referring to a newspaper called "The Free American", no doubt the Bund's own paper.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,310 posts)raccoon
(31,093 posts)Maybe somebody made them a deal they couldnt refuse?
LakeVermilion
(1,023 posts)Worse yet, his followers will do things for him that they wouldn't do for their own family members. They all need "tough" love.
riversedge
(69,740 posts)madaboutharry
(40,153 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Link to tweet
yeah...right. and pull *this* leg and it plays Jingle Bells
Volaris
(10,260 posts)dem4decades
(11,245 posts)Phoenix61
(16,955 posts)He also said he would let the DOJ do its job.
dem4decades
(11,245 posts)Phoenix61
(16,955 posts)She said several times she didnt want impeachment but then was able to say it had to happen, overwhelming evidence etc. Especially with the senate runoff races in GA. If Biden comes out screaming about sending Twitler to jail it will fire up his base in Ga. Best to let it go....for now.
dem4decades
(11,245 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)it never would of happened. Instead, she stalled so long that the eventual denied subpoenas (which they should have KNOWN would happen) didn't have time to work their way through the courts to be ruled on. So, in effect, her delay, which got NO testimony from anyone relevant, was what allowed the republicans to continue their treason. And it set the precedent of NO ONE having to respond to a subpoena, because there is no punishment (unless you are a democrat, of course).
Biden should be staying mum about accountability, and let his AG do that job. But he is now sending out floaters about "for the good of the country".
Sorry Joe, the country IS divided and will stay divided unless there is some accountability.
LenaBaby61
(6,965 posts)This 👇🏻👇🏻
FOR NOW.
getagrip_already
(14,265 posts)It now has the media focusing on trumps criminal liabilities post election. It is beginning to sink in just how corrupt and criminal he is personally.
And that happened when biden simply said he wouldn't get involved.
He may not have planned it, but it couldn't have been more pitch perfect to get the media to pick it up and talk about it across multiple news cycles.
Joe has been at this game a long time. He still knows how to play tunes.
whopis01
(3,468 posts)Crimes should be prosecuted.
Something has gone wrong with the system when the President has to get involved with whether or not a crime is prosecuted.
(I am talking in general terms - not about Biden specifically. I believe that he is taking this approach, and letting the DOJ and the state-level equivalents handle that. At least I hope that is his approach - we shall certainly see.)
LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)on what cases the AG they appointed will prosecute. No matter what they say for the camera. I'm sure its part of the interview and assessment before one is announced as the pick. I don't think most Presidents care about the many other cases that are not as politically toxic, that the AG would be working on too. But the implications in going after Trump, a former President, are way too great for a current President not to have a say whether to drop the case and move on, or go to war. One thing Biden and the Dems are probably right on, it would consume his first term.
But sorry, even IF, we lose the race in 2024 because of the propaganda onslaught we will hear on Fox and probably even the rest of the MSM "Did the Democrats go Too Far?........We'll ask our Republican guest after the break"
We still should go full Def Con 1 on their asses. If we lose in 2024, but send off Trump and a few other Republicans off to jail, and expose all the shit they did, including the crimes we never knew about, at least a precedent will be set. The country will be able to gain respect again, from the world but also from Americans themselves. Even if its only half of them. Its time to dig out the dirt in all the corners, and have a fresh start.
whopis01
(3,468 posts)I said it is a failure of the system when they do. And I stand by that.
Criminal activity should be prosecuted. Period.
avebury
(10,946 posts)the DOJ would handle it.
Towlie
(5,308 posts)
?
It was just a hunch at the time:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14580728
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)Until you are standing in front of a Judge under Oath.
Jail time has a way of changing one's perspective A LOT.
Dem2
(8,166 posts)This is so highly inappropriate - he needs to be prosecuted for this, along with his lackey Graham.
You know that conversation went down with all sorts of wanna-be Mafioso double speak.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,066 posts)He must pay.
LiberalFighter
(50,518 posts)yardwork
(61,420 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)the election to overturn the will of the people, thus disenfranchising them. But I don't know if a specific law is being broken because they can claim that they want a vote audit before certifying the votes. But is it legal to rescind certification once it's done?
yardwork
(61,420 posts)It seems like the president is interfering in the lawful review and certification of votes involving his re-election.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)mob type innuendoes and hints instead of direct orders. And the canvassers would never admit or testify that he pressured them.
Marcuse
(7,403 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)Initech
(99,926 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)ananda
(28,784 posts)Wow
Evolve Dammit
(16,648 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)Jail would be the best outcome, clearly, but anything negative coming her way is just dessert.
getagrip_already
(14,265 posts)Maybe I could make those go away..... just sayin.
Aviation Pro
(12,056 posts)Apt metaphor for Shitbag.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)These low level people need to be hammered. They don't have Trump's resources. If they want to do his bidding, make them pay. Boycott where she works, shun her, make her life miserable. We have to weaken this Trump cult piece by piece.
onenote
(42,387 posts)First, the Wayne County Ethics Board can issue penalties for violations of the Ethics Ordinance of no more than $500. They can't put people in prison.
Second, Palmer doesn't explain what the 501(c)(4) issue but that is a section of the Internal Revenue Code and, again, its impossible to tell what he thinks has occurred here but, again, the Michigan Ethics Board has no jurisdiction to enforce the Internal Revenue Code.
More about the situation here:https://www.candgnews.com/news/complaint-filed-against-wayne-county-board-of-canvassers-chairperson-119174
Stuart G
(38,367 posts)diva77
(7,606 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,922 posts)And expressed concern for her safety. She say she she felt no pressure.
She is full is full of shit
GusBob
(7,286 posts)From which side?
God knows he wasnt talking about COVID
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Iggo
(47,493 posts)Jeezus.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)fire them...I think
kentuck
(110,950 posts)He should not have called. It appears to be election manipulation. In other words, attempted fraud.
ecstatic
(32,567 posts)Unfortunately, it's not shocking at all. trump is the most corrupt, criminal minded POS "president" of my lifetime.
Cha
(295,971 posts)down in a burning pile of flames.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)coercion.
Hassler
(3,331 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,433 posts)This is America, bitch. YOU do not write the rules, you get to go to jail for breaking them. Fuck you!!!!! Rot in Hell throughout eternity in agonizing pain!
Skittles
(152,977 posts)sounds like SOP for cheating, fascist bastards
Botany
(70,296 posts)Source: MLive
Two Republicans serving on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers want to rescind their votes to certify results of the general election.
Monica Palmer and Willam Hartmann initially voted against certifying countywide election results during a Tuesday meeting, later changing their minds and voting in favor of certification on the condition that an independent audit is conducted.
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The Secretary of States office, however, argues there is no legal mechanism for Palmer and Hartmann to rescind their votes. All 83 counties in Michigan had certified their elections as of Thursday, Nov. 18.
Their job is done and the next step in the process is for the Board of State Canvassers to meet and certify, said Tracy Wimmer, spokesperson for Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson.
Read more: https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/11/wayne-county-republicans-cant-rescind-their-votes-to-certify-election-says-secretary-of-state.html