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leftofthestorm

(932 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:30 PM Nov 2020

Pennsylvania judge orders halt to further vote certification

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-judge-orders-halt-to-further-vote-certification/article_6898b1f8-2f4c-11eb-bedb-5b40ebef1c05.html

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - A Pennsylvania appeals court judge ordered state officials on Wednesday to halt any further steps toward certifying election results.

The ruling comes a day after Gov. Tom Wolf said he had certified Democrat Joe Biden as the state's winner of the presidential election.

It wasn’t immediately clear if the order from Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough could hold up the certification of state and local contests on the ballot or interrupt the scheduled Dec. 14 meeting of the state’s 20 electors.

"To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States of America, Respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so, pending an evidentiary hearing to be held on Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:30 am via WebEx," according to the judge's order.

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Pennsylvania judge orders halt to further vote certification (Original Post) leftofthestorm Nov 2020 OP
WTF? There is no legitimate basis whatsoever for this. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #1
No, this is a state court judge. Presidents can only appoint federal judges. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #5
I just saw an article that says PA Supreme Court has been overturning all of her decisions. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #9
Also the PA SC is 5-2 Dem NewsCenter28 Nov 2020 #26
She won her seat in 2009 as a Republican dalton99a Nov 2020 #8
Yes DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #13
I find this very confusing. BainsBane Nov 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author L.Pharmstrong Nov 2020 #24
Without any evidence of fraud. turtleblossom Nov 2020 #3
People keep posting this. There is no halt. servermsh Nov 2020 #4
I agree, but why did the judge issue the block? Mike 03 Nov 2020 #6
Because she's a Republican, Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #11
The actual injunction- AkFemDem Nov 2020 #16
Governor should move with haste to appoint Biden electors. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #7
They've been appointed for a long time DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #15
We elect our electors BlueInPhilly Nov 2020 #19
True, but who the Biden electors are has been DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #23
I don't understand the point of the appeal in the first place. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #10
Kelly/Parnell want Act 77 ruled unconstitutional DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #22
Pretty sure PA law forbids slating unofficial electors fearnobush Nov 2020 #12
I've caught crap for posting this- AkFemDem Nov 2020 #14
AG Shapiro says it does not affect the presidential race DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #21
The results for the presidential election have already been certified. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #17
Seems to me that their PAY should be based on results, SO bluestarone Nov 2020 #18
Just go ahead and disregard the ruling. roamer65 Nov 2020 #20
The Titanic is enjoined from sinking... Girard442 Nov 2020 #25

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. I just saw an article that says PA Supreme Court has been overturning all of her decisions.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:38 PM
Nov 2020

What a piece of crap.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
26. Also the PA SC is 5-2 Dem
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:04 PM
Nov 2020

This coup attempt will be overturned post haste by the PA SC and I suspect the injunction will even be invalidated.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
13. Yes
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:43 PM
Nov 2020

In PA, judges face retention elections every 10 years and are required to retire at age 75. She was retained in 2019 and won't race another retention election until 2029. Luckily Pennsylvanians have long memories.

Response to BainsBane (Reply #2)

turtleblossom

(504 posts)
3. Without any evidence of fraud.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:32 PM
Nov 2020

Just because some spoil brat can't handle losing an election.


Time for a boycott.

servermsh

(913 posts)
4. People keep posting this. There is no halt.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:34 PM
Nov 2020

The certification has already happened.

Also, the PA AG is appealing to the PA Supreme Court.




This is going nowhere.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. I don't understand the point of the appeal in the first place.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:39 PM
Nov 2020

Sometimes attorneys do something that looks like one thing, but it's actually a Trojan Horse for something else they want to accomplish down the road. (Senator Whitehouse talks about this strategy a lot).

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
22. Kelly/Parnell want Act 77 ruled unconstitutional
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

Act 77 is what expanded rules for absentee ballot voting, essentially making PA a "no excuse absentee ballot" state.

AkFemDem

(1,798 posts)
14. I've caught crap for posting this-
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:43 PM
Nov 2020

And I think people are just gut reacting and not actually reading the links or the injunction.

In theory this should only affect down ballot votes. BUT the injunction does clearly speak to the top of the ballot as well. Whether it has any teeth seems super doubtful to me as a layman though.

https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/kelly-order.pdf

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
21. AG Shapiro says it does not affect the presidential race
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:50 PM
Nov 2020

but could affect the down ballot elections. Even then, I think the only down ballot election that could be affected would be the Brewster/Zicarelli SD47 state senate seat. I'm not sure how this effects the ballots the state supreme court said should be counted in Allegheny and Philadelphia counties.

The ruling says to the "extent (results) haven't been certified" the state is enjoined from doing so, but Wolf signed the presidential cert yesterday after Secy of State Boockvar certified it after she got all the certified results from the counties.

The order says that the state told her the down ballot elections had not been certified. The state is enjoined from certifying them. That would mean no state house and half the state senate, both controlled by Rs. I guess Gov Wolf could govern by fiat in that scenario.

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