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It's fawking treason what manafort did wasn't it??? (Original Post)
a kennedy
Dec 2020
OP
Didn't he personally hand over US voter data to a Russian spy? Maybe not treason, but against
Karadeniz
Dec 2020
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Karadeniz
(21,709 posts)1. Didn't he personally hand over US voter data to a Russian spy? Maybe not treason, but against
Election law. Illegal campaign equals illegal winner. Trump is an illegal president.
Irish_Dem
(41,990 posts)3. That is what I thought as well. nt
Tanuki
(14,795 posts)4. Jimmy Carter agrees...Trump is an illegitimate president due to Russian interference
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/737008785/jimmy-carter-says-he-sees-trump-as-an-illegitimate-president
..."Carter replied:
"Well, the president himself should condemn it, admit that it happened, which I think 16 [of the] intelligence agencies have already agreed to say. And there's no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election. And I think the interference although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf."
The former president seemed to be referring to a 2017 analysis from the Director of National Intelligence, which, while speaking for 17 U.S. intelligence agencies, was specifically relying on three of those agencies the CIA, FBI and NSA when it said the U.S. intelligence community had concluded Russia interfered in the election. Other agencies then affirmed the conclusion.
Carter's remarks came during a discussion on human rights that also featured his former vice president, Walter Mondale. After Carter answered the question about Russia's interference in Americans' democratic process, moderator Jon Meacham asked a follow-up: "So, do you believe President Trump is an illegitimate president?"
Carter paused, prompting some in the audience to laugh. He then replied, "Based on what I just said, which I can't retract, I would say yes."...(more)
..."Carter replied:
"Well, the president himself should condemn it, admit that it happened, which I think 16 [of the] intelligence agencies have already agreed to say. And there's no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election. And I think the interference although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf."
The former president seemed to be referring to a 2017 analysis from the Director of National Intelligence, which, while speaking for 17 U.S. intelligence agencies, was specifically relying on three of those agencies the CIA, FBI and NSA when it said the U.S. intelligence community had concluded Russia interfered in the election. Other agencies then affirmed the conclusion.
Carter's remarks came during a discussion on human rights that also featured his former vice president, Walter Mondale. After Carter answered the question about Russia's interference in Americans' democratic process, moderator Jon Meacham asked a follow-up: "So, do you believe President Trump is an illegitimate president?"
Carter paused, prompting some in the audience to laugh. He then replied, "Based on what I just said, which I can't retract, I would say yes."...(more)
The Velveteen Ocelot
(112,915 posts)2. Technically, no.
He was convicted of five counts of filing false tax returns, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a foreign bank account.