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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 02:18 PM Feb 2021

Assange rape-accuser pens tell-all book. Describes him as charismatic, two-faced, unhygienic.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-accuser-anna-ardin-says-im-not-a-cia-agent-im-a-sexual-abuse-victim?ref=home?ref=home

Anna Ardin, one of two women whose accusations of sexual abuse against Julian Assange prompted the Wikileaks founder to hide in the Ecuadorean embassy in London for seven years, has written a tell-all book called In the Shadow of Assange: My Testimony.

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She readily admits to fancying the budding celebrity and even offering him her spare bedroom, and writes that she had considered sleeping with him, in part out of revenge on an ex boyfriend.

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But she says Assange immediately started behaving erratically and when she came home to her apartment, he met her at the door with one of her bras in his hands. “I’ve been looking through your underwear drawer,” he allegedly said. “I saw the size of this and thought ‘this is a woman I’d like to meet.’”

The two then agreed to sleep together, but when the moment came, Assange grew aggressive, pushing her down on the bed and “deliberately sabotaging his condom” in order to try to have risky, unprotected sex. She resisted and retrieved a fresh condom and returned to bed, in part because of what she described as “the coolness in his gaze, our common knowledge that he is stronger than me.” She said then she went on to “have one orgasm, perhaps even two.” But that the incident remained unfavorable.

“Julian is definitely not a monster,” she writes. “But he crossed my boundaries.”

After the incident, she allowed him to stay in her apartment. They went to a party together the night after the incident during which Ardin says he was an entirely different person than he was the night he assaulted her. “Julian is in many ways a fantastic person,” she told a top Swedish talk show while promoting her book over the weekend. “But the Julian who took part in the party is totally different from the one who humiliated and abused me the previous evening.”

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She said he refused to bathe, leaving her apartment smelling “strongly of unwashed body, of dried-in sweat.” She also accused Assange of failing to flush. “There are turds floating in the toilet,” she recalled thinking before she asked him to leave.




There are screenshots of Assange's old online-dating profile on the internet. He was a self-obsessed creep back then and he is a self-obsessed creep today.
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Assange rape-accuser pens tell-all book. Describes him as charismatic, two-faced, unhygienic. (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2021 OP
LOL Tell us everything GusBob Feb 2021 #1
Anna Ardin: dalton99a Feb 2021 #2
Wow--I've got mixed feelings about this pandr32 Feb 2021 #3
Yeah whathehell Feb 2021 #4
We've probably all got stories of bad romance pandr32 Feb 2021 #9
Her story doesn't sound like whathehell Feb 2021 #10
Ever since 2016 I've had a very negative view of Assange. This info doesn't change that, fer abqtommy Feb 2021 #5
What REALLY irks me about him is this sociopathic philosophy that he founded Wikileaks on: DetlefK Feb 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author nam78_two Feb 2021 #11
He presented himself in the way he actually was Beringia Feb 2021 #6
As a survivor this blows me away. chowder66 Feb 2021 #8

pandr32

(11,447 posts)
3. Wow--I've got mixed feelings about this
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 02:47 PM
Feb 2021

People often make bad choices. It seems this woman "fancied the budding celebrity", allowed him to stay at her flat, agreed to sleep with him even after he had rummaged through her personal things, had sex with him even after getting up to get another condom after he had been "aggressive", and allowed him to continue to stay with her.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
10. Her story doesn't sound like
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:15 PM
Feb 2021

a "bad romance", exactly -- His behavior sounds VERY questionable - but I can't understand her actions in the context of her account of the incident.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. What REALLY irks me about him is this sociopathic philosophy that he founded Wikileaks on:
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:25 PM
Feb 2021

This right here is Julian Assange's original thesis, the philosophical foundation of Wikileaks. This right here explains how he sees the ruling-class and how he intends to hold them accountable: With the ever-present threat that someone could leak their secrets.

But Wikileaks is just the beginning: If you read his thesis carefully, you see that Assange envisions a society of radical transparency where EVERYBODY'S SECRETS are public. His argument is that evil cannot exist in such a society because it has nowhere to hide.

I called him a sociopath at the beginning of my post and here's why: Assange RECOGNIZES that publishing everybody's secrets would not only hurt the evi, but also the weakest and most vulnerable among us. AND HE JUST WAVES THAT OFF. The weakest and most vulnerable of our society, ruining their lives, possibly having them killed by their enemies, that is a sacrifice that Julian Assange is willing to make to see his grand dream of a radically transparent society come true.

https://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf

Response to DetlefK (Reply #7)

Beringia

(4,314 posts)
6. He presented himself in the way he actually was
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:01 PM
Feb 2021

So he didn't trick her.

I would like to hear stories of guys who would lecture or try to hold to account their guy pals in high school or college for this type of behavior, because no guy I ever knew would care the least.

chowder66

(9,011 posts)
8. As a survivor this blows me away.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:48 PM
Feb 2021

I would never call this assault but I am not her.

IMO this is a bad sex encounter and I would have admitted it was my mistake to have sex with someone like this and warn others that the guy is disrespectful, weird and has boundary issues.
If I was that uncomfortable about someone "sabotaging his condom" (what does that mean?) then I would have said NO and stopped it right there regardless of a "cold look". If I detected the "cold look" I would have done everything to get him the fuck out. On top of that, I would have been so turned off if someone was as creepy as that.

I have never liked Assange but I really don't think these "he wouldn't use a condom" stories add up to assault. There are loads of guys who don't like to wear them and will practically beg to have sex without them but if you tell them no, they typically acquiesce or keep trying different excuses until they realize you are not going to budge and that ends the date or relationship right there.

Good guys worth any time will understand and will start carrying them and using them and some even prefer it because it delays orgasm which they eventually reach, not to mention that it protects them and they realize this too.

This sounds like regretful sex more than an assault.

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