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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:57 PM Feb 2021

Guest on MSNBC made a good point about Trump and his 2024 re-election bid

He said that Trump won't win if the media doesn't let him. And what he meant was that they gave him so much free coverage in 2015 and 2016 they made his rallies must-see and must-attend events....and they shouldn't repeat the mistake....essentially they should ignore him.

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Guest on MSNBC made a good point about Trump and his 2024 re-election bid (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 OP
As one of the managers said, Trump losing an election is dangerous. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #1
He'll be dead by 2024...... Jack from Charlotte Feb 2021 #25
Gee a good dream followed by a nightmare. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #26
If COVID doesn't get him, a coronary will. Initech Feb 2021 #32
If only!! FoxNewsSucks Feb 2021 #33
You know that death would not stop the QOP. Dan Feb 2021 #39
You're probably right. He'd be too sick to attend all the campaign events, even if still alive. lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #47
Not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. MoonchildCA Feb 2021 #48
Almost as dangerous as Trump winning an election GopherGal Feb 2021 #43
The media has responsibility for what happened to this country. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #44
Maybe.. GopherGal Feb 2021 #45
True, but a few key media players on the Putin payroll would be his style as well. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #46
No doubt about it, he's a creation of the media. underpants Feb 2021 #2
But remember what Ted Lieu said frazzled Feb 2021 #3
Yes, that was Lieu. BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #6
He wouldn't have the reins of govt then at least. We'd moonscape Feb 2021 #21
I think the implication is not that he might ever win frazzled Feb 2021 #27
Yes. Why do you think he actually won the primary in 2016. DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #34
I'm pretty sure he will run again in 2024. StevieM Feb 2021 #29
He's permanently kicked off Twitter FakeNoose Feb 2021 #4
Yep, I think the attempted coup was his Swan Song. Talitha Feb 2021 #7
I rate it as his death knell. grantcart Feb 2021 #15
Yes, and did you read dianaredwing Feb 2021 #19
He will still be in the news facing multiple law suits. lynintenn Feb 2021 #5
I find it interesting that the one media person Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #8
He also never mentioned Trevor Noah ... fierywoman Feb 2021 #9
Yeah, but he's more on a comedian than a journalist. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #16
He might be a comedian but his observations are so regularly astute and profound. fierywoman Feb 2021 #41
Funny, I was thinking the same this morning canetoad Feb 2021 #11
Trump has probably never watched Rachel jcgoldie Feb 2021 #14
That's a good analysis. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #18
If MF45 ever tuned to Rachel, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2021 #30
Why are so many people worried about trump running in 2024? I don't get it! Escurumbele Feb 2021 #10
He might go to trial but he will be acquitted. Can you imagine enpaneling a jury without 1 Trumper DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #37
Only 5% in DC voted Trump. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #40
Here's a study on that from Harvard. progressoid Feb 2021 #12
But the liberal media is silencing Conservative voices.... Claire Oh Nette Feb 2021 #13
Also without hourly Twitter comments he won't be able to control the minds of his minions. Kablooie Feb 2021 #17
I wish people would stop talking about him running in 2024 Bev54 Feb 2021 #20
this loser trump ! monkeyman1 Feb 2021 #22
Uh... what's up in FL? I think they allowed him to live at Mar-a-largo electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #42
Should - nice one lame54 Feb 2021 #23
The media in the US needs a hell of a makeover Leith Feb 2021 #24
Trump doesn't have a 2024 re-election bid greenjar_01 Feb 2021 #28
That guest has an excellent grasp of the obvious. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #31
MF45 was inflicted on us all by FoxNewsSucks Feb 2021 #35
Or run the Impeachment Trial OVER Cha Feb 2021 #36
Media will do what makes them the most money. n/t dobleremolque Feb 2021 #38
Hopefully he wouldn't win a general election no matter what andym Feb 2021 #49
Maybe not in 2024 Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #51
K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #50

Jack from Charlotte

(2,367 posts)
25. He'll be dead by 2024......
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:04 PM
Feb 2021

or mostly dead, at least. He'll be 78ish if he even makes 2024. He's morbidly obese. Takes no advice from any professional. He'll be sleeping with the fishes while Rafael Cruz and MT Green battle it out for the Republic Party nomination.

Initech

(99,915 posts)
32. If COVID doesn't get him, a coronary will.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:35 PM
Feb 2021

No way in hell could he survive another vigorous campaign cycle. His supporters will blame his death on the Deep State then make a conspiracy that he face swapped with Kevin Smith.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,378 posts)
33. If only!!
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:35 PM
Feb 2021

He should already be dead, and the covid should have finished him off.

But remember, unless the Senate convicts and removes his benefits, he'll get taxpayer-funded health care for the rest of his miserable life.

It disgusts me to think that we can't afford to go to the doctor ourselves, but our taxes pay for him, Schmuck Assley, Lyin Ted Cruz and all of the rightwing assholes to have the best treatment in the world.

Dan

(3,524 posts)
39. You know that death would not stop the QOP.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:57 PM
Feb 2021

Even dead the QOP will run candidate Trump and declare that he has arisen from the dead to lead the QOP and MAGA. Most of the QOP would support a dead man over a Democratic candidate.

GopherGal

(1,999 posts)
43. Almost as dangerous as Trump winning an election
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:36 PM
Feb 2021

is to the next 475000 COVID victims.

And I fear the "what does Biden think about the impeachment trial?" questions from the press suggest that no, the media hasn't learned its lesson to not give this sack of @#$# any oxygen. *Maybe* they did eventually realize what fools they made of themselves with the live coverage of his empty podium and pointless virus task force pressers. But that apparently didn't cure them of the "horse-race" journalism and "anything DJT does is news" mindsets that are their go-tos to draw eyeballs.

Irish_Dem

(45,660 posts)
44. The media has responsibility for what happened to this country.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:40 PM
Feb 2021

Constant coverage and pandering to Trump.
Now, they are not covering all the good Biden is doing, the high ratings he is getting, etc.

My theory is that Putin bought off some of the press while he was at it.
He got all three branches of government, why not the press?

GopherGal

(1,999 posts)
45. Maybe..
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:47 PM
Feb 2021

but part of Papa Puti's genius is to align people's incentives with his own, exploiting their weaknesses. They put the carrot out there to satisfy the entertainment/news establishment's thirst for sensation and the media just trampled over everything in their path including and especially their own integrity, to get at that carrot.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. But remember what Ted Lieu said
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 07:17 PM
Feb 2021

At least I think it was him ... maybe it was Castro or Raskin: “I’m not afraid of Donald Trump running again. I’m afraid of him losing.” Because January 6 could happen all over again, and worse.

Frankly, I don’t think he’d run again anyway. Or hopefully he’ll be in prison. But the best solution would be to ensure it by voting to convict next week.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
27. I think the implication is not that he might ever win
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:05 PM
Feb 2021

But that if he were able run at all—and then lose, it would unleash his goon followers to set the country on fire.

DLCWIdem

(1,558 posts)
34. Yes. Why do you think he actually won the primary in 2016.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:37 PM
Feb 2021

Because the Repubs thought he would fund a 3rd party.

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
4. He's permanently kicked off Twitter
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 07:23 PM
Feb 2021

He won't get the free airtime like he enjoyed while he was president. Pretty soon he won't even be newsworthy any more. The networks will make him pay for advertising, like all the other candidates and he'll never do that. I doubt he'll have the resources, and anyway he'll refuse to pay for airtime that he thinks he should get for free.

His reign is over.



Talitha

(6,479 posts)
7. Yep, I think the attempted coup was his Swan Song.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:30 PM
Feb 2021

But it was also a primer for the next one in the Q to give it a try.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
19. Yes, and did you read
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:59 PM
Feb 2021

the earlier post about the fate of RW radio when Limbaugh hits the dust? He (Dump) is soooo YESTERDAY that I can't imagine main stream television finding him good for ratings or ad revenue.

lynintenn

(633 posts)
5. He will still be in the news facing multiple law suits.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 07:54 PM
Feb 2021

I agree the media helped elect him. He called in every day to CNN (Anderson Cooper) and Morning Joe and thay ALL fed into it.

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
8. I find it interesting that the one media person
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:32 PM
Feb 2021

Trump never messed with, never even gave her a nickname. Never spoke much about her at all.

Rachel Maddow. I wonder why? Was he afraid of her?

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
16. Yeah, but he's more on a comedian than a journalist.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Feb 2021

Although, like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and a few others, at times he is more informative than some journalists.

canetoad

(17,090 posts)
11. Funny, I was thinking the same this morning
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:40 PM
Feb 2021

Maybe it's because she has probably as much exposure and a thousand times the gravitas and believability that he has.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
14. Trump has probably never watched Rachel
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:45 PM
Feb 2021

She’s too far out of his league. Its like asking what a dog thinks about philosophy . Rachel makes long sophisticated arguments with in depth research and multifaceted references. Theres no way Trump has the attention span to follow her... probably got bored and glassy eyed after 5 minutes flipped to fox to hear them say his name over and over.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,378 posts)
30. If MF45 ever tuned to Rachel,
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:32 PM
Feb 2021

as said above, he wouldn't understand a thing other than the sound of his own name. To that stupid narcissist, it would be like listening to the Charlie Brown teacher. "Wah wah wah wah, wah wah, trump, wah wah, wah wah trump, wah......"

He'd probably assume it was good, because he heard his name.

Escurumbele

(3,341 posts)
10. Why are so many people worried about trump running in 2024? I don't get it!
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:38 PM
Feb 2021

It actually is infuriating!!!

That SOB is going to jail, he can't run from jail, he has a ton of indictments waiting for him.

What is the stupidity of worrying about that SOB running again? He is going to, not run because he can't, but he will be walking at the walk yard while in prison.

Enough with this 2024 run of the SOB, HE IS NOT GOING TO RUN, HE IS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. I wish the media would stop the conversation, and we at DU need to make the point of not allowing that conversation to exist, instead we need to remind everyone of all the legal issues that await him.

Kablooie

(18,572 posts)
17. Also without hourly Twitter comments he won't be able to control the minds of his minions.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:50 PM
Feb 2021

I think it's the feeling of intimacy and direct communication to Trump through Twitter that made the MAGATS become such slavish cult members.
If they hear him primarily through news appearances there won't be nearly the same connection.

Bev54

(9,963 posts)
20. I wish people would stop talking about him running in 2024
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:00 PM
Feb 2021

I highly doubt he will even if not in prison by then, but he cannot take another humiliation and would rather be the person threatening everyone else. I suspect his legal problems will keep him far too busy to even think about another run.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
22. this loser trump !
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:02 PM
Feb 2021

this loser trump guy & family is done like a a duck dinner !!! the only media he should get is he is a pos . he has been a failure his whole damn life !!! he has done us great thing though . toke the whole damn republican party down with with him. ol'ted & josh now will probably be getting a good look see from DOJ & lot of people in their home states . plus, ex - leader -a.k.a. moscow mitch would love to ditch " the fat anchor on his neck donny ". but , we shall see. the games are just now starting. GEORGIA , SDNY, FLORIDA . who else wants to pile on. the next few month's will be interesting .

Leith

(7,802 posts)
24. The media in the US needs a hell of a makeover
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
Feb 2021

They have been doing pretty terribly for decades.

However, I think that the orange monster won't run in 2024 because his health isn't going to hold out.

Not only that, but his bull shit over the years and the Capitol riot have made most people really sour on him. We just aren't amused any more.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
31. That guest has an excellent grasp of the obvious.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:33 PM
Feb 2021

The number being floated at the time was free air time to the tune of a billion dollar's worth. Get that down to the couple of million that other candidates get, and he wouldn't have lasted two months of the primary season.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,378 posts)
35. MF45 was inflicted on us all by
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:38 PM
Feb 2021

every god damn day every god damn channel showing an empty podium "AWAITING TRUMP REMARKS" from early in the primary.

They put that piece of shit in the Oval Office. Treating him like he was already president in 2015. Showing that empty podium, instead of covering other actual issues and events.

andym

(5,441 posts)
49. Hopefully he wouldn't win a general election no matter what
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 03:37 PM
Feb 2021

but he doesn't need the mainstream media to get the GOP nomination.

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