General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuest on MSNBC made a good point about Trump and his 2024 re-election bid
He said that Trump won't win if the media doesn't let him. And what he meant was that they gave him so much free coverage in 2015 and 2016 they made his rallies must-see and must-attend events....and they shouldn't repeat the mistake....essentially they should ignore him.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)He would repeat the same behavior.
Jack from Charlotte
(2,367 posts)or mostly dead, at least. He'll be 78ish if he even makes 2024. He's morbidly obese. Takes no advice from any professional. He'll be sleeping with the fishes while Rafael Cruz and MT Green battle it out for the Republic Party nomination.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)Initech
(99,915 posts)No way in hell could he survive another vigorous campaign cycle. His supporters will blame his death on the Deep State then make a conspiracy that he face swapped with Kevin Smith.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,378 posts)He should already be dead, and the covid should have finished him off.
But remember, unless the Senate convicts and removes his benefits, he'll get taxpayer-funded health care for the rest of his miserable life.
It disgusts me to think that we can't afford to go to the doctor ourselves, but our taxes pay for him, Schmuck Assley, Lyin Ted Cruz and all of the rightwing assholes to have the best treatment in the world.
Dan
(3,524 posts)Even dead the QOP will run candidate Trump and declare that he has arisen from the dead to lead the QOP and MAGA. Most of the QOP would support a dead man over a Democratic candidate.
lindysalsagal
(20,444 posts)MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Your post brought that song to my mind.
GopherGal
(1,999 posts)is to the next 475000 COVID victims.
And I fear the "what does Biden think about the impeachment trial?" questions from the press suggest that no, the media hasn't learned its lesson to not give this sack of @#$# any oxygen. *Maybe* they did eventually realize what fools they made of themselves with the live coverage of his empty podium and pointless virus task force pressers. But that apparently didn't cure them of the "horse-race" journalism and "anything DJT does is news" mindsets that are their go-tos to draw eyeballs.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)Constant coverage and pandering to Trump.
Now, they are not covering all the good Biden is doing, the high ratings he is getting, etc.
My theory is that Putin bought off some of the press while he was at it.
He got all three branches of government, why not the press?
GopherGal
(1,999 posts)but part of Papa Puti's genius is to align people's incentives with his own, exploiting their weaknesses. They put the carrot out there to satisfy the entertainment/news establishment's thirst for sensation and the media just trampled over everything in their path including and especially their own integrity, to get at that carrot.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)underpants
(182,285 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)At least I think it was him ... maybe it was Castro or Raskin: Im not afraid of Donald Trump running again. Im afraid of him losing. Because January 6 could happen all over again, and worse.
Frankly, I dont think hed run again anyway. Or hopefully hell be in prison. But the best solution would be to ensure it by voting to convict next week.
BigmanPigman
(51,432 posts)I have seen the clip several times today, short but makes a damn good point.
moonscape
(4,664 posts)be better prepared for sure.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)But that if he were able run at alland then lose, it would unleash his goon followers to set the country on fire.
DLCWIdem
(1,558 posts)Because the Repubs thought he would fund a 3rd party.
StevieM
(10,499 posts)He can't let go of the spotlight.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)He won't get the free airtime like he enjoyed while he was president. Pretty soon he won't even be newsworthy any more. The networks will make him pay for advertising, like all the other candidates and he'll never do that. I doubt he'll have the resources, and anyway he'll refuse to pay for airtime that he thinks he should get for free.
His reign is over.
Talitha
(6,479 posts)But it was also a primer for the next one in the Q to give it a try.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)dianaredwing
(406 posts)the earlier post about the fate of RW radio when Limbaugh hits the dust? He (Dump) is soooo YESTERDAY that I can't imagine main stream television finding him good for ratings or ad revenue.
lynintenn
(633 posts)I agree the media helped elect him. He called in every day to CNN (Anderson Cooper) and Morning Joe and thay ALL fed into it.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)Trump never messed with, never even gave her a nickname. Never spoke much about her at all.
Rachel Maddow. I wonder why? Was he afraid of her?
fierywoman
(7,641 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)Although, like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and a few others, at times he is more informative than some journalists.
fierywoman
(7,641 posts)canetoad
(17,090 posts)Maybe it's because she has probably as much exposure and a thousand times the gravitas and believability that he has.
jcgoldie
(11,584 posts)Shes too far out of his league. Its like asking what a dog thinks about philosophy . Rachel makes long sophisticated arguments with in depth research and multifaceted references. Theres no way Trump has the attention span to follow her... probably got bored and glassy eyed after 5 minutes flipped to fox to hear them say his name over and over.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)He wouldn't have the intellect or attention span to even figure her out.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,378 posts)as said above, he wouldn't understand a thing other than the sound of his own name. To that stupid narcissist, it would be like listening to the Charlie Brown teacher. "Wah wah wah wah, wah wah, trump, wah wah, wah wah trump, wah......"
He'd probably assume it was good, because he heard his name.
Escurumbele
(3,341 posts)It actually is infuriating!!!
That SOB is going to jail, he can't run from jail, he has a ton of indictments waiting for him.
What is the stupidity of worrying about that SOB running again? He is going to, not run because he can't, but he will be walking at the walk yard while in prison.
Enough with this 2024 run of the SOB, HE IS NOT GOING TO RUN, HE IS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. I wish the media would stop the conversation, and we at DU need to make the point of not allowing that conversation to exist, instead we need to remind everyone of all the legal issues that await him.
DLCWIdem
(1,558 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,650 posts)You could very well have a jury with zero Trumpers.
progressoid
(49,827 posts)Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Hmmm. Silencing something.
Kablooie
(18,572 posts)I think it's the feeling of intimacy and direct communication to Trump through Twitter that made the MAGATS become such slavish cult members.
If they hear him primarily through news appearances there won't be nearly the same connection.
Bev54
(9,963 posts)I highly doubt he will even if not in prison by then, but he cannot take another humiliation and would rather be the person threatening everyone else. I suspect his legal problems will keep him far too busy to even think about another run.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)this loser trump guy & family is done like a a duck dinner !!! the only media he should get is he is a pos . he has been a failure his whole damn life !!! he has done us great thing though . toke the whole damn republican party down with with him. ol'ted & josh now will probably be getting a good look see from DOJ & lot of people in their home states . plus, ex - leader -a.k.a. moscow mitch would love to ditch " the fat anchor on his neck donny ". but , we shall see. the games are just now starting. GEORGIA , SDNY, FLORIDA . who else wants to pile on. the next few month's will be interesting .
electric_blue68
(14,623 posts)lame54
(35,141 posts)Leith
(7,802 posts)They have been doing pretty terribly for decades.
However, I think that the orange monster won't run in 2024 because his health isn't going to hold out.
Not only that, but his bull shit over the years and the Capitol riot have made most people really sour on him. We just aren't amused any more.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Stop normalizing bullshit.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)The number being floated at the time was free air time to the tune of a billion dollar's worth. Get that down to the couple of million that other candidates get, and he wouldn't have lasted two months of the primary season.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,378 posts)every god damn day every god damn channel showing an empty podium "AWAITING TRUMP REMARKS" from early in the primary.
They put that piece of shit in the Oval Office. Treating him like he was already president in 2015. Showing that empty podium, instead of covering other actual issues and events.
Cha
(295,929 posts)dobleremolque
(479 posts)andym
(5,441 posts)but he doesn't need the mainstream media to get the GOP nomination.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)But thats how he won the GOP nomination in 2016