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(67,193 posts)bigtree
(85,917 posts)...and wanted to change the income requirements, even though it would cut off many people who got the $600.
He should go quietly on the relief bill, lest he outflank his republican governor on the right.
msongs
(67,193 posts)bigtree
(85,917 posts)...than retaliation against them, which wouldn't faze Manchin.
Achieving things like the minimum wage increase and finding ways to get more people working is the best case Democrats can make for support there.
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)There are states where its happening..a slow roll out
Bettie
(15,998 posts)are the ones that tend to pay not a penny more than the minimum.
OAITW r.2.0
(23,813 posts)This is the economic stimulus that a consumer driven economy absolutely needs. As soon as Covid passes....does this shrink the $1.9TT cost? If so, how much?
Celerity
(42,648 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(23,813 posts)(1) $15 minimum wage
(2) protection/strengthening election law
Make the right moves on majority vote and let the Republicans explain their negative votes in 2022 and 2024.
Celerity
(42,648 posts)so thus we all sit and suffer due to a mistake made in 1805 by Aaron Burr.
Senate Filibuster Was Created By Mistake
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2013/11/20/senate-filibuster-was-created-by-mistake/
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I do believe we need an increase in the minimum wage.
But if that held up or even stopped the stimulus bill many now waiting in food lines would suffer.
Put the minimum wage increase into a separate bill.
onecaliberal
(32,483 posts)with their corporate masters we might get some things done. I am not hopeful. At least 10 trillion parked offshore, but we can't get even 10 bucks an hour. So pathetic.
Irish_Dem
(45,625 posts)Caliman73
(11,693 posts)It sucks, but makes sense. When you use Reconciliation, you are forgoing the regular rules of the Senate (Cloture) so there is an expectation that the policies that come out of Reconciliation will not be permanent laws. There has to be a time limit, so a minimum wage increase (unless they put a time limit on it) would not comply with that rule.
To answer your question more plainly though, NO, rules never really hurt billionaires. They get their policies enacted 90% of the time, whereas the rest of us have about a 30% success rate.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,367 posts)still_one
(91,947 posts)every Democratic vote in the Senate
tritsofme
(17,322 posts)Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)that they will honor the decision of the Parliamentarian. So, no.
dsc
(52,130 posts)mvd
(65,148 posts)I havent seen.
Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)as capable and totally non-partisan.
mvd
(65,148 posts)If so, this decision is just terrible. I didnt think the CBO projection put enough emphasis on long term benefits, but they did say it has a budgetary effect.
Nevilledog
(50,676 posts)Link to tweet
Robert Reich
@RBReich
·
Feb 25, 2021
When the Senate parliamentarian got in the way of the Bush tax cut, Republicans fired him and passed it anyways.
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
The Senate parliamentarian has ruled that Democrats' $15 minimum wage provision cannot be included in President Biden's COVID relief bill.
Robert Reich
@RBReich
Key Senate Official Loses Job in Dispute With GOP
washingtonpost.com
5:44 PM · Feb 25, 2021
mvd
(65,148 posts)At least rulings in the past have been consistent.
OrlandoDem2
(2,064 posts)still_one
(91,947 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)They could however put it in a military spending bill
Or infrastructure Bill
JI7
(89,173 posts)mvd
(65,148 posts)Make Repukes vote against defense.
I would like us to overrule since I feel this decision is wrong. But it would probably then lose more votes.
Either try something like you said or at least get it to $10 or $11 with intent to go higher.
jcgoldie
(11,584 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Its the only path really
mvd
(65,148 posts)It really is a great path to getting it done.
Celerity
(42,648 posts)Wanderlust988
(509 posts)Force Repubs to vote against both the covid bill and minimum wage.
Celerity
(42,648 posts)voted on. Best chance we have now is to ram it into a Defence Appropriation bill.