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Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:34 AM

Can only imagine gusts of laughter if a Navy captain claimed their vessel "grounded due to strong wi


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Thomas Shugart
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Can only imagine gusts of laughter if a Navy captain claimed their vessel "grounded due to strong wind".

To rephrase, assuming winds were as forecast: "vessel grounded to due to inadequate risk assessment of effects of high winds on the handling of the ship in a narrow channel."

Sal Mercogliano 🚢⚓🧭🐪🚒
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Two larger tugs enroute.
They are still blaming wind.
Crew safe and working.







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Reply Can only imagine gusts of laughter if a Navy captain claimed their vessel "grounded due to strong wi (Original post)
soothsayer Mar 2021 OP
Sgent Mar 2021 #1
hack89 Mar 2021 #3
taxi Mar 2021 #2
panader0 Mar 2021 #4
3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #5
maxrandb Mar 2021 #7
soothsayer Mar 2021 #8
3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #9
maxrandb Mar 2021 #6

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:41 AM

1. Considering this thing

is much larger than any aircraft carrier ever built (more than twice the gross tonnage as a Ford class carrier), and we haven't let AC transit the Suez canal in a long time, this seems a little disingenuous.

Some blame maybe reasonably put on the ship's captain, but honestly I think its more whoever writes they paycheck for the captain.

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Response to Sgent (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

3. US air craft carriers transit the Suez Canal every couple of years

The last time was in 2019. The only practical way to get east coast carriers to the Persian Gulf.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:51 AM

2. Isn't that the truth!

Full astern and hard-a-starboard sounds familar. Oh, that's a different ship.

The Titanic

"Iceberg, right ahead!"

These three words were spoken by Lookout Frederick Fleet at 11:40 p.m. on 14 April 1912 from the crow’s nest of the ill-fated RMS Titanic. The story has come down that, reacting to this three-word warning, First Officer William Murdoch ordered "hard a-starboard." The ship started to turn left, but its bow grazed the iceberg.

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/hard-a-starboard.html

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:48 AM

4. If canal pilots were driving the thing, and I assume they are Egyptian,

then does that fact release the Ever Given's parent company from responsibility?
It seems like it would to me. At the cost of 400 million an hour, who will pay the
billions?

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:50 AM

5. Does it not seem unlikely that something...

...as massive as this ship would be pushed around by wind?

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 04:52 PM

7. I was on an aircraft carrier

We would swing 360 degrees when we were at anchor, all because of the current and winds.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 04:53 PM

8. Well its containers are stacked so high, they're like a sail

So the wind would not be a friend

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 05:00 PM

9. Thank you for the explanation.

Very interesting.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Mar 28, 2021, 04:48 PM

6. Actually, it's quite probable that it was the wind

This ship has a massive sail area. It doesn't matter how heavy the ship is. With a sail area of this size, strong winds could definitely knock it off course.

We had a Sail Locker on USS IOWA. The Bos'n used to brag that he could rig a large enough sail that would get us 10 Knots if we ever lost the engineering plant.

This ship has a sail area the size of a skyscraper. Wind surely could, and probably did knock it off course.

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