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Cyrano

(15,020 posts)
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:11 PM Mar 2021

We really are on the perilous edge of losing our democracy

Millions of Americans are eating the shit being fed to them by the Republican Party.

Millions of Democrats know exactly what's going on and are helpless to stop it.

We are currently the majority in the House, the Senate, and we've got the Presidency. Yet, at this moment, that all seems meaningless.

Everyone knows that Georgia's insane election "laws" will soon be replicated in other states. Everyone knows that "red" states will literally do anything and everything to ensure that Republicans "own" the federal government. But what millions can't seem to grasp is that IF the Republican Party once again controls/steals the House, the Senate, the Presidency, our democracy, our freedoms and America are over.

Yeah, I know you see this kind of "end-times" ranting on DU and elsewhere every day. You're fed up with it and you do something positive. You join a Dem organization, you sign petitions, you donate, you write letters to the editor, and you try to find what else you can possibly do to stop the rising tide of American fascism that the Republicans want to impose on us. Good for you for doing everything you possibly can. You're out there fighting the good fight. You're out there playing by the rules. But the Republicans aren't playing by any rules.

Imagine an America in which Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, that crazy lady with the guns, and the other crazy QAnon lady, are in the majority in the House and Senate. Imagine an America in which a Trump wannabe is inhabiting the White House and will tell the House and Senate what to do. And you don't have to imagine what a far-right fringe Supreme Court would look like.

So what's the bottom line to this rant? What is it I fear? How do we save our democracy that has been shredded by those who have declared themselves the enemies of democracy? -- We are a divided country engulfed in what can only be called a "cold war." The last time America was here, it turned into a hot war and more Americans died in it than in all of our foreign wars combined. That's my fear. I believe that we Democrats are willing to search for a peaceful solution. However, how do we negotiate with people who want to "win" at any cost? We can't. So I will end here with the thought that the coming two to four years will be among the most perilous that America has faced since the Civil War. And I cling to the hope that it won't come to that.

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We really are on the perilous edge of losing our democracy (Original Post) Cyrano Mar 2021 OP
We may not edhopper Mar 2021 #1
We can reform it still, Looks like if we make everyone stand up and talk we're good uponit7771 Mar 2021 #13
True This! bluestarone Mar 2021 #2
Democrats can do the exact things Republicans think we are too afraid to do: Baked Potato Mar 2021 #3
Yep, a huge dose of sanity. If only we had 50 senate votes Cyrano Mar 2021 #4
There has to be a way-- Baked Potato Mar 2021 #6
Make Washington DC bdamomma Mar 2021 #5
I'm game for that. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #9
A RICO case against the GQP would be a start Ponietz Mar 2021 #7
yes those bdamomma Mar 2021 #16
Agree Totally colsohlibgal Mar 2021 #8
What I want to know is why Manchin and Sinema don't see this... Silent3 Mar 2021 #10
Thier lack of fire I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #15
I'm worried, too. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #17
The damned Rethugs need to be taken out to the woodshed. Talitha Mar 2021 #11
Ted Cruz bdamomma Mar 2021 #19
I completely agree with you. Bookmarking. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #12
I worry about this too I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #14
I think many bdamomma Mar 2021 #18
I fear that far too many wingnuts would welcome a Civil War Cyrano Mar 2021 #20
And it will be thus until there is justice. kentuck Mar 2021 #21

bluestarone

(16,720 posts)
2. True This!
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:27 PM
Mar 2021

And guess what? It' seems like the SAME states that caused the civil war! So here we go again, if it's not fixed in the next 4 years.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
3. Democrats can do the exact things Republicans think we are too afraid to do:
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:40 PM
Mar 2021

* Eliminate the damn filibuster.

* Pass a Public Option Medical plan, to include Dental.

* Jack the minimum wage up, with no bullshit 10 years or whatever to do it.

* Pass laws strengthening the Unions.

* Pass whatever damn laws the MAJORITY of Americans want.

* Add Supreme Court Justices.

* Pass Equality legislation.

Republicans are hoping Democrats do like they always do—argue about bullshit after Republicans toss out trigger issues.

The USA is a tough country to live in and it doesn’t need to be this way. Americans NEED to get something for being an American, besides getting shafted!

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
6. There has to be a way--
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:43 PM
Mar 2021

I think we can pick up votes if we go big. Republicans didn’t care what Americans thought about them and put a Justice in the Court. That alone is disgustingly ballsy politics. There’s has to be big things accomplished this term.

Ponietz

(2,903 posts)
7. A RICO case against the GQP would be a start
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:45 PM
Mar 2021

to placing disgrace and shame where it belongs. The “great with minnows” FBI needs to reel some big fish in for organized conspiracy to commit sedition.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
8. Agree Totally
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:18 PM
Mar 2021

This could break several different ways in the near future and some of those ways are not good.

Democracy can dissolve quickly.

We have now one party almost totally corrupted....enough to be fine with letting kooks load up n military grade weapons and mow down people. To fight hard against raising taxes. In the tank for wealthy folks and corporations and the Hell with everyone else..... and not for everyday normal altruistic folks at all.

I fear for what will be here for my kids, their kids, etc.

My big Pipe Dream is for Extraterrestrials to land and say all bad actors out of the pool.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
10. What I want to know is why Manchin and Sinema don't see this...
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:24 PM
Mar 2021

...or, supposing they aren't that naive about what the Republicans are up to, don't show a bit more fire in the belly to save our democracy.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,450 posts)
14. I worry about this too
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:54 AM
Mar 2021

If Biden fails to stop these monsters , the worst case scenario will become very possibly become reality.

I will feel like have a target on my back. Even worse than when the orange pig was president because these fascist assholes will be unleashed on all of us. This time with the power of the corrupt and traitorus courts,
police,military etc.behind them.

If they get control SSI will dissapear pretty quick, hud will be shut down and drained of funds. I won't have healthcare anymore and my diabeties would kill me in short order.

Everything I have I will lose.

The fascist traitors respect no laws and will take no responsibility for thier actions and thier viciousness will be unchecked.

I know my mental illness and ptsd would flare up and I would probably trigger like I have never triggered before..

I hope I do not have to deal with some fucked up seething pustule of a gun humper catching me, torturing and killing me because they decided they could get away with it.. and thier buddies would egg them on.

It's a hud neighborhood I live in. It's full of poor's and other races,disabled people,the kinds of people rwnj's hate.

Honestly
I would see no future for me past a few months. I don't know if I could physically or psychologically survive a fascist takeover.

Being trans,diabetic ,poor mentally ill and disabled..
With a livid hate of traitors,sociopaths bigots authoritarians ,q nuts,narcissists, fucking wealthy pigs christofacists and all right wing shit won't help .

They'll be gleefully pulling out thier guns to abuse and hurt me because that's what racists and sociopaths fantasize about and would love to do to people that aren't like them.

They'll know I'm a ungodly, flaming anti fascist,anti capitalist ,jesus hating ,bleeding heart lib.

Let's just hope Biden dispatches these fuckers fast. Tells Mitch to fuck off and die. Roll right over the Senate.

I'm not going down without a fight. Even if my sugar is off the chart.

And I will not do a lick of work in any concentration camp.

I will not go quietly.

I have fire in my belly and lightning in my eyes.

Like most other libs do.

The fascists will arrogantly underestimate what damage good people can do to them.


All I can do is hope the damage disempowers them to the point they have nothing but prison and/or death to look forward to.

Cyrano

(15,020 posts)
20. I fear that far too many wingnuts would welcome a Civil War
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:55 AM
Mar 2021

It's why they fondle their guns, show them off in the open, and brag about "Owning the Libs." But were the horror of a second Civil War to come about, there would be no geographic boundaries. It would be neighbor against neighbor, former friend against former friend, family against family. And in the end, the destruction would be virtually total.

With the exception of a few psychopaths, those who are anxiously waiting for another Civil War have never lived through the actual horror of war. It's the sheer ignorance of these self-styled "Rambos" that makes them so dangerous. And none of us will ever be safe until all the crazies are treated as, ... well, ... crazy.

The guns have to go, the voting needs to be repaired, universal health care needs to come into being, free K thru College must come about for all, the concept of white supremacy must be buried, and so, so much more. Republicans are blocking it all with the sick fantasies of their alternate universe. And the damn thing is, we don't know how to stop them. So perhaps, doG forbid, they will get their Civil War.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
21. And it will be thus until there is justice.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:00 AM
Mar 2021

For the rich as well as the poor. There can be no democracy without justice.

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