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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:50 AM Apr 2021

Kyrsten Sinema Defends the Filibuster


April 6, 2021 at 10:44 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

“Sen. Kyrsten Sinema has emerged as the staunchest Democratic defender of the filibuster, brushing off fire from the outspoken progressive wing of her party as she tries to stake out a bipartisan reputation in a battleground state,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Said Sinema: “When you have a place that’s broken and not working, and many would say that’s the Senate today, I don’t think the solution is to erode the rules. I think the solution is for senators to change their behavior and begin to work together, which is what the country wants us to do.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2021/04/06/kyrsten-sinema-defends-the-filibuster/
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Kyrsten Sinema Defends the Filibuster (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
I anxiously await Sinema's tutorial on "working together " Raven123 Apr 2021 #1
I am sure Republicans will remember i 2024. TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #15
And if senators don't change their behaviour? Then what, Senator Curtesy? Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #2
Did she say it with a flouncey curtsey? dchill Apr 2021 #3
Bless her heart...as my grandmother used to say. n/t CincyDem Apr 2021 #4
Here's how you educate her Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #5
She's very naive Takket Apr 2021 #6
if you work with people,who don't Want to work, you get NOTHING DONE! RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2021 #7
She's playing a dangerous game Dave in VA Apr 2021 #8
Does NO ONE see the danger in killing the filibuster? Do you have any idea how many times Democrats jpljr77 Apr 2021 #9
As usual for every topic in America, it doesn't have to be a binary choice. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #17
What happens when the opposition makes it clear that they do not intend on changing thier behavior? In It to Win It Apr 2021 #10
How many times do Republicans have to tell you to kiss their ass? Thrill Apr 2021 #11
As awful as it is to have one senator believe this nonsense dsc Apr 2021 #12
"the solution is for senators to change their behavior" I guess it's possible she's this Carlitos Brigante Apr 2021 #13
That's true. She needs to start with her own behavior. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #20
FFS.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #14
If she believes that, then she has the responsibility to change the behavior of her colleagues. Yavin4 Apr 2021 #16
The Lady Speaks Flat Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2021 #18
Bust her. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #19

Fiendish Thingy

(15,367 posts)
2. And if senators don't change their behaviour? Then what, Senator Curtesy?
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:54 AM
Apr 2021

Do you just shrug and chalk it up to partisan gridlock, or do you change the rules to GET SHIT DONE, which is what VOTERS elected you to do.

If Sinema continues to cling to the filibuster, she’s going to have an interesting summer, as vaccinated constituents hit the streets to let her know how they feel about Senate traditions...

Johnny2X2X

(18,745 posts)
5. Here's how you educate her
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

Let Sinema be involved in "working" with Republicans to craft a piece of legislation, let her champion the bill, let her work really hard to write it and get GOP buy in, then watch as the Republicans all refuse to support it. The GOP refuses to work on anything, they will not vote for anything, even if you let them write it 100% themselves.

But I suspect she already knows this, and just is saying what she thinks her voters want to hear.

Takket

(21,424 posts)
6. She's very naive
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:02 PM
Apr 2021

She’s right that the public wants politicians to work together but she’s naive to believe it will happen. Even if you let the rethugs write the bills they won’t vote them.

If there is compromise that will show leadership from Biden and the Dens and the rethugs know if the people see leadership, Biden will get re-elected.

So she can try as much as she wants to koom-bye-ya my lord and they will smile and tell her, yeah we’ll work with you! But they will stab her and America In the back in the end.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,645 posts)
7. if you work with people,who don't Want to work, you get NOTHING DONE!
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:03 PM
Apr 2021

She makes Tuberville look like a PHD candidate.

Dave in VA

(2,034 posts)
8. She's playing a dangerous game
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:05 PM
Apr 2021

Give the voters a choice between Republican and Republican Lite and the Republican wins almost every time!

She could easily get burned doing this and we lose a Democratic seat.

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
9. Does NO ONE see the danger in killing the filibuster? Do you have any idea how many times Democrats
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:07 PM
Apr 2021

used it during the 2017-19 Congress? Seriously.

Change the rules back to a talking filibuster and straight up abuse the budget reconciliation process (same as Republicans did) to get legislation to pass. We already got a huge win from the parliamentarian yesterday for the infrastructure bill.

But if you kill the filibuster, don't complain when a Republican Congress starts passing the most batshit crazy crap you've ever seen starting as early as 2025.

maxsolomon

(32,987 posts)
17. As usual for every topic in America, it doesn't have to be a binary choice.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:29 PM
Apr 2021

But that's usually the choice we're presented with.

The filibuster can be CHANGED rather than eliminated. Reid changed it, McConnell changed it.

Sinema and Manchin are being disingenuous, which is normal for Senators. But more normal for GOP Senators.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
12. As awful as it is to have one senator believe this nonsense
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:15 PM
Apr 2021

at least Biden apparently doesn't actually believe this nonsense despite his having said he did during the campaign. I do hope she comes around on this as she currently seems to have bought this hook, line and sinker.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,482 posts)
13. "the solution is for senators to change their behavior" I guess it's possible she's this
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:18 PM
Apr 2021

ignorant and historical.......... But I'm pretty sure it's that she thinks we are.

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
14. FFS....
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:20 PM
Apr 2021

She might as well have said, "the solution is for a fucking miracle to happen." Hey Senator Dumbass, the Republicans will simply NOT support anything which could be seen as a victory for Biden, ESPECIALLY if it will actually be effective.

Her answer is either disingenuous or naive... or both.

Yavin4

(35,357 posts)
16. If she believes that, then she has the responsibility to change the behavior of her colleagues.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021

She has to prove to everyone that the filibuster is not an obstacle to getting things done.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
18. The Lady Speaks Flat Nonesense, Sir
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:46 PM
Apr 2021

The rules, this one in particular, are the problem, and exactly why the institution neither functions nor is able to function.

You can't repair the Senate without changing the rules to allow it to function.

The country does not give the south end of a northbound rat whether Senators work together. The country wants legislation three quarters of the populace supports to be passed and signed into law. No one much cares how it's done, not outside the beltway press.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. Bust her.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:16 PM
Apr 2021

She needs to hear from her constituents that the time for playing footsie with fascists is over.

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