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This will go down in history as a major turning point. (Original Post) Amaryllis Apr 2021 OP
Only if things actually change Jerry2144 Apr 2021 #1
It's also possible that it's an outlier event LastDemocratInSC Apr 2021 #2
Only if... TygrBright Apr 2021 #3
as you say, "historic step in the right direction" YES! Alice Kramden Apr 2021 #8
Perhaps this is it Alice Kramden Apr 2021 #4
I wish, the PDs around The Twin Cities are against the communities of color and we ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #5
It will frazzled Apr 2021 #6
We'll see. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #7
We citizens have to turn into advocates for respectful and fair treatment of EVERYONE. Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2021 #9
Doubtful. SoonerPride Apr 2021 #10
I hope this is the case Amaryllis mcar Apr 2021 #11
It is a turning point in so many ways, it's a big step in the right direction. sop Apr 2021 #12
I guess I'm a bit more measured... regnaD kciN Apr 2021 #13

Jerry2144

(2,046 posts)
1. Only if things actually change
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:31 PM
Apr 2021

It is a turning point only if things change. And hopefully this marks the turn towards the good, towards justice, and towards treating people of color as people, first.

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
3. Only if...
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:32 PM
Apr 2021

1. A sentence respectful of the magnitude of the crime is handed down;

2. The verdict is upheld on all levels of appeal; and

3. The sentence is upheld on all levels of appeal and fully served.

This is not yet "over" although it is a historic step in the right direction.

warily,
Bright

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
5. I wish, the PDs around The Twin Cities are against the communities of color and we ...
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:34 PM
Apr 2021

... can see the evidence of that after too unarmed killings and the PDs acting a damn fool

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. It will
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:35 PM
Apr 2021

It feels like the long-awaited expiation of American shamefulness that has trailed a long line of injustice in our lifetimes, from Emmet Till and Birmingham to this day.

There is hope for change at last, though just the first glimmer. George Floyd’s name and this day will go down in history.

Ocelot II

(115,280 posts)
7. We'll see.
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:35 PM
Apr 2021

I'm enough of a skeptic to wonder whether it will really make a difference. Cops kept killing black people even after Chauvin and the others were arrested, and even at an apparently higher rate. It seemed like despite a whole summer of high-profile mass protests it kept happening over and over. I think long-lasting change will require an entirely different way of thinking about policing, not to mention weeding out the racists, and this will take a very long time.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,485 posts)
9. We citizens have to turn into advocates for respectful and fair treatment of EVERYONE.
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:36 PM
Apr 2021

This means having our cellphones at the ready for pics and of course video. An unintended benefit/consequence of the smart phone boom is our ability to watch out for each other when dealing with law enforcement. Maybe this will encourage all the good cops we are told exist (and I believe most cops aren't monsters) to take a stand and have a zero tolerance policy with the bad ones............

mcar

(42,210 posts)
11. I hope this is the case Amaryllis
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:39 PM
Apr 2021

I watched most of the trial, and I was so apprehensive of the verdict, even though this was an open and shut case.

I feel a sense of relief, and sadness.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
13. I guess I'm a bit more measured...
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:29 PM
Apr 2021

I think it's significant in helping to establish the notion that there are limits to "legitimate" police force, even against BIPOC. (The fact that this even has to be debated is absurd to me, but there it is.) It remains to be seen exactly what those limits are; since this is not a federal case, it only applies as precedent in Minnesota, and only if it stands on appeal.

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