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Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:24 PM

This will go down in history as a major turning point.

I was thinking maybe I should say a profound turning point. Really strong adjectives are needed here. Hard to find adequate words.

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Reply This will go down in history as a major turning point. (Original post)
Amaryllis Apr 20 OP
Jerry2144 Apr 20 #1
LastDemocratInSC Apr 20 #2
TygrBright Apr 20 #3
Alice Kramden Apr 20 #8
Alice Kramden Apr 20 #4
uponit7771 Apr 20 #5
frazzled Apr 20 #6
Ocelot II Apr 20 #7
Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 20 #9
SoonerPride Apr 20 #10
mcar Apr 20 #11
sop Apr 20 #12
regnaD kciN Apr 20 #13

Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:31 PM

1. Only if things actually change

It is a turning point only if things change. And hopefully this marks the turn towards the good, towards justice, and towards treating people of color as people, first.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:31 PM

2. It's also possible that it's an outlier event

and that everything goes back to "normal" before long.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:32 PM

3. Only if...

1. A sentence respectful of the magnitude of the crime is handed down;

2. The verdict is upheld on all levels of appeal; and

3. The sentence is upheld on all levels of appeal and fully served.

This is not yet "over" although it is a historic step in the right direction.

warily,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:35 PM

8. as you say, "historic step in the right direction" YES!

amidst the tragedy a thousand times YES!

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:34 PM

4. Perhaps this is it

We NEED a major turning point - it could be profound

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:34 PM

5. I wish, the PDs around The Twin Cities are against the communities of color and we ...

... can see the evidence of that after too unarmed killings and the PDs acting a damn fool

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:35 PM

6. It will

It feels like the long-awaited expiation of American shamefulness that has trailed a long line of injustice in our lifetimes, from Emmet Till and Birmingham to this day.

There is hope for change at last, though just the first glimmer. George Floyd’s name and this day will go down in history.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:35 PM

7. We'll see.

I'm enough of a skeptic to wonder whether it will really make a difference. Cops kept killing black people even after Chauvin and the others were arrested, and even at an apparently higher rate. It seemed like despite a whole summer of high-profile mass protests it kept happening over and over. I think long-lasting change will require an entirely different way of thinking about policing, not to mention weeding out the racists, and this will take a very long time.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:36 PM

9. We citizens have to turn into advocates for respectful and fair treatment of EVERYONE.

This means having our cellphones at the ready for pics and of course video. An unintended benefit/consequence of the smart phone boom is our ability to watch out for each other when dealing with law enforcement. Maybe this will encourage all the good cops we are told exist (and I believe most cops aren't monsters) to take a stand and have a zero tolerance policy with the bad ones............

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:37 PM

10. Doubtful.

I wish but I doubt it

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:39 PM

11. I hope this is the case Amaryllis

I watched most of the trial, and I was so apprehensive of the verdict, even though this was an open and shut case.

I feel a sense of relief, and sadness.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:41 PM

12. It is a turning point in so many ways, it's a big step in the right direction.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:29 PM

13. I guess I'm a bit more measured...

I think it's significant in helping to establish the notion that there are limits to "legitimate" police force, even against BIPOC. (The fact that this even has to be debated is absurd to me, but there it is.) It remains to be seen exactly what those limits are; since this is not a federal case, it only applies as precedent in Minnesota, and only if it stands on appeal.

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