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Lest we forget.....This is how authorities initially reported the death of George Floyd (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2021 OP
"At no time were weapons of any type used..." leftieNanner Apr 2021 #1
Is this the William Barr version? Xavier Breath Apr 2021 #2
Not enough redactions. peppertree Apr 2021 #32
+1000000000 to the infinite power, squared nt MerryHolidays Apr 2021 #40
Why, thank you. peppertree Apr 2021 #42
wow, it says he died at the hospital IcyPeas Apr 2021 #3
I believe that's routine jmowreader Apr 2021 #20
But they could have said that he was wnylib Apr 2021 #28
Thank you so much for posting MerryHolidays Apr 2021 #4
... Nevilledog Apr 2021 #39
Wow ... went from sitting on his car to medical distress MaryMagdaline Apr 2021 #5
Typical bullshit, carefully crafted and calibrated to cover up and distract dalton99a Apr 2021 #6
And it's a formulaic statement.....this is from yesterday (hope there's video) Nevilledog Apr 2021 #12
SMH. They must have a template that they use ecstatic Apr 2021 #18
thank you... stillcool Apr 2021 #7
Yes! Deuxcents Apr 2021 #15
Thanks for this, Neville Hekate Apr 2021 #8
... Nevilledog Apr 2021 #29
"Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #9
Totally Absent In Their Screed... ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #43
The cell phone camera has offered more protection to Black Americans than any law enforcement sop Apr 2021 #10
So true, when private citizens are able to document police misdeeds FakeNoose Apr 2021 #22
Damn. That's some whitewashing there. soothsayer Apr 2021 #11
Consequences are needed for THAT too... Moostache Apr 2021 #13
Yes enough Apr 2021 #16
Seeing the bullshit as bullshit and comparing it to the known truth RVN VET71 Apr 2021 #36
K&R betsuni Apr 2021 #14
So typical of the BS put out there by crooked cops ecstatic Apr 2021 #17
And the ones responsible for THIS should be held responsible also. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #19
That makes them accomplices, IMO. wnylib Apr 2021 #30
"a forgery in progress" bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #21
IOW NQAS Apr 2021 #23
Doesn't it seem that there's a bit of a gap in the middle of the story? BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #24
Lying police report people Apr 2021 #25
+1000 n/t MarcA Apr 2021 #31
A damn shame! Jay25 Apr 2021 #26
Discusting WestIndianArchie Apr 2021 #27
k&r Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #33
This would be the "South African" version peppertree Apr 2021 #34
Thank you for the reminder of this blatant lie. niyad Apr 2021 #35
Proving you can't trust the police's word on ANYTHING. Coventina Apr 2021 #37
Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction': How police originally ... Yahoo News progree Apr 2021 #38
r&k MerryBlooms Apr 2021 #41

leftieNanner

(14,997 posts)
1. "At no time were weapons of any type used..."
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:35 PM
Apr 2021

Except a man's knee and his evil intent.

I heard about this on NPR this afternoon.

peppertree

(21,529 posts)
32. Not enough redactions.
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 09:05 PM
Apr 2021

The only things we'd be able to see are "On Monday evening....a male believed to be in his 40s....he died a short time later."

jmowreader

(50,451 posts)
20. I believe that's routine
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 07:58 PM
Apr 2021

A medical person (usually an MD) has to declare someone dead. When the cops haul in someone they killed, he’s not dead yet until a doctor says he is.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
28. But they could have said that he was
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 08:32 PM
Apr 2021

dead on arrival.

Chauvin would never have been held accountable if not for witnesses and the bystander video. Plus the marches and protests demanding justice.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
4. Thank you so much for posting
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:39 PM
Apr 2021

I can barely see through the tears as I watch the family press conference....I cannot believe that this was what "law enforcement" could put out. But then, again, I guess I'm naive.

Thank the good lord for cell phone cameras.

Mr. Floyd: I hope today is the first day of the avenging of what happened to you. Hopefully, it will lead to many more changes. RIP, Sir.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
18. SMH. They must have a template that they use
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 07:23 PM
Apr 2021

for their "in-custody deaths." Just swap out the dates and address. I wonder why the hospital name isn't important? Too inconvenient or too transparent?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. "Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:43 PM
Apr 2021

distress. Officers called for an ambulance"... so what if they forgot to mention the 10+ minutes between the time they put him in handcuffs and they called for an ambulance and how and why he suddenly found himself "in medical distress."

And yet people still insist we give cops the benefit of the doubt and take at face value their claims that their victims were a threat and they had no choice but to kill them.

ProfessorGAC

(64,419 posts)
43. Totally Absent In Their Screed...
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 02:53 PM
Apr 2021

...is why he was arrested in the first place.
A guy intentionally passing counterfeit bills waited around for the cops to show up?
Seems he could have been a VICTIM of counterfeiting, just like the store.
Simply getting his info so he could be questioned later would have been appropriate.
But, they make no effort to explain why he was arrested & cuffed.
They arrested a potential victim of a counterfeiter, handled him roughly, then let a senior officer kill him.
I guess trying to explain why an arrest was their first reaction would have screwed up the fantasy they wrote.

sop

(9,946 posts)
10. The cell phone camera has offered more protection to Black Americans than any law enforcement
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:47 PM
Apr 2021

agency, news organization, court, prosecutor or elected official.

FakeNoose

(32,346 posts)
22. So true, when private citizens are able to document police misdeeds
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 08:02 PM
Apr 2021

It's not always possible, but it's a godsend when the bystanders can do it.


Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. Consequences are needed for THAT too...
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 07:01 PM
Apr 2021

Anyone who wrote, edited, reviewed, approved and published that load of complete bullshit should be charged with obstruction of justice, fired from their positions, forfeit pensions and benefits and be barred from holding any law enforcement positions for the next 25 years.

Being party to the coverup is not quite as bad as Chauvin's callous murder...but in other ways it is far worse. That kind of bullshit description and cover-up must be exposed, those responsible for perpetuating it must be disciplined and there must be real pain in the accountability for it.

The thin-blue line MUST GO, and ALL who actively protect the guilty by smearing the truth or outright lying must be made a terrible example to scare the rest straight. Body cams and video are fine, but full accountability to the public-facing information teams is just as important.

RVN VET71

(2,686 posts)
36. Seeing the bullshit as bullshit and comparing it to the known truth
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021

takes your breath away.

It’s the typical approach to covering up police crimes against citizens.

But Chauvin’s jury was listening painfully and carefully to witness testimony and also noting the fact that Chauvin refused to testify. The evidence and testimony was just overwhelming. The jury (very diverse, I believe, with men and women, black and white) new Chauvin killed Floyd, killed him slowly, painfully, and with evident knowledge of the danger he was putting the helpless man in.

Personally, I expected him to be found guilty of manslaughter. I am both surprised and happy to find that they found him guilty on all counts.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,059 posts)
19. And the ones responsible for THIS should be held responsible also.
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 07:31 PM
Apr 2021

While they didn't kill anyone, they guilty of attempting to cover up a murder.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
24. Doesn't it seem that there's a bit of a gap in the middle of the story?
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 08:12 PM
Apr 2021

I could have sworn something happened between the arrivals of police and the ambulance.

people

(612 posts)
25. Lying police report
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 08:14 PM
Apr 2021

How many thousands of dishonest and totally skewed police reports are there like this that underlie criminal convictions and guilty pleas? We will not ever know.

peppertree

(21,529 posts)
34. This would be the "South African" version
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 09:08 PM
Apr 2021

In the Apartheid era, after beating and torturing black victims to death, the report would often list the same cause of death over and over:

"Fell down stairs"

progree

(10,864 posts)
38. Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction': How police originally ... Yahoo News
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 04:30 AM
Apr 2021
https://news.yahoo.com/man-dies-after-medical-incident-during-police-interaction-how-police-originally-described-george-floyds-death-003930462.html

Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction': How police originally described George Floyd's death, Yahoo News, 4/20/21

On the morning of May 26, 2020, Minnesota police spokesman John Elder sent a brief press release regarding a death that had occurred the prior evening.

...

“Two officers arrived and located the suspect, a male believed to be in his 40s, in his car,” it continued. “He was ordered to step from his car. After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Officers called for an ambulance. He was transported to Hennepin County Medical Center by ambulance where he died a short time later.”

...

Hours after that initial statement was released, bystander videos (including from then-17-year-old Darnella Frazier) and security footage from the scene of the incident began to circulate online, revealing crucial details omitted by the police department’s original version of events.

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“It is deeply concerning that the information initially circulated by the Minneapolis Police Department early Tuesday morning did not fully reflect the horrifying circumstances surrounding George Floyd’s death,” Council Member Jeremy Schroeder said at the time. “The original news release did not in my view accurately convey the facts or the role of the officers in this tragedy.”

In an interview with the Star Tribune the night following Floyd’s death, Elder stated, “We try very hard to get information out as quickly as possible that is wholly honest and correct. There is no way I’m going to lie about a situation that is on body camera and is going to prove this department to be disingenuous.”
...

Also among the first prominent figures to speak out in response to the video of Floyd’s death was then-presidential candidate Joe Biden, who praised the firing of the officers involved and urged the FBI to investigate in a tweet posted on May 26, 2020.

“George Floyd deserved better and his family deserves justice,” Biden tweeted at the time. “His life mattered.”

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