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global1

(25,169 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:49 PM May 2021

How I've Convinced Some People To Get The Vaccination......

I use this analogy. When a person doesn't get food - after a period of time they die of starvation.

I tell them it is the same with the Covid virus.

We the people - are Covid's food. Covid needs us to perpetuate. Covid feasts on us.

How can we starve Covid? Well by not making ourselves available as food for Covid.

How do we do that?

Wear our masks. Isolate ourselves for a period of time from other people. Social distance. And above all - GET VACCINATED.

Don't give Covid a chance to use us as its food.

We need to essentially cut off as many pathways for Covid to use us people as its food.

Too me this is a simple way to explain to the the - anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers -how we can stop Covid dead in it tracks.

STARVE THE VIRUS!!!

I've now talked about 7 people into getting vaccinated because of this analogy.

It seems to resonate with them and they understand it.

Try it out with some of your friends, family and colleagues that refuse to get vaccinated.

It worked for me.

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How I've Convinced Some People To Get The Vaccination...... (Original Post) global1 May 2021 OP
Very instructive, and an excellent analogy. Thanks JohnSJ May 2021 #1
It must hit them at a "gut" level. lagomorph777 May 2021 #2
I agree. I'm' going to use this! LiberalLovinLug May 2021 #15
Excellent, LEW May 2021 #3
5 good reasons FSogol May 2021 #4
Wish Lucy's 5 good reasons worked! KS Toronado May 2021 #16
What Is Completely Destroying Me Is That Americans Need To Be Bribed Into Getting Vaccinated..... global1 May 2021 #5
There was quite a bit of resistance to the Salk vaccine, too, and it took... TreasonousBastard May 2021 #13
It didn't help DownriverDem May 2021 #27
Disinformation is the biggest obstacle today. Pinback May 2021 #29
Whatever works at this point dianaredwing May 2021 #14
That would get me laughed at and spit on in OK Runningdawg May 2021 #6
Why? What's Your Reasoning That You Would Be Laughed At Using This Analogy?.... global1 May 2021 #10
And I have tried to explain it - once more Runningdawg May 2021 #22
Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986. Delmette2.0 May 2021 #23
Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986. Delmette2.0 May 2021 #24
Then to many of us DownriverDem May 2021 #28
EXACTLY! Stand back and let the bodies hit the floor. Runningdawg May 2021 #33
Perhaps start suing those who ignore common sense steps to protect others from ... SWBTATTReg May 2021 #7
At this point Diamond_Dog May 2021 #8
Just say "The virus will sort them out" hydrolastic May 2021 #9
And if they don't aggiesal May 2021 #11
I've played the erectile dysfunction card EYESORE 9001 May 2021 #12
I have done this too. mackdaddy May 2021 #20
"A liberal baby cries its eyes out whenever a conservative gets vaccinated"? struggle4progress May 2021 #17
Very smart! And useful because it's not snarky... fierywoman May 2021 #18
They need to be shunned. Demobrat May 2021 #19
I'm with you. MLAA May 2021 #26
It is in the works Runningdawg May 2021 #34
We had our carpets cleaned for the first time in 1 1/2 years. SleeplessinSoCal May 2021 #21
Maybe nature I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #25
The problem is they would clog up Demobrat May 2021 #32
I tell them great, would you please sign this form so we can send your vaccine to Africa grantcart May 2021 #30
I like it. A lot. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #31

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. It must hit them at a "gut" level.
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:00 PM
May 2021

Most people do not want to think of themselves as food.

Great strategy.

global1

(25,169 posts)
5. What Is Completely Destroying Me Is That Americans Need To Be Bribed Into Getting Vaccinated.....
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:23 PM
May 2021

I listened to MichaelAngelo Signoreli yesterday and he was listing all the ways that States are using to bribe them into getting vaccinated. (i.e., Things like paying them. Giving them gift cards. Giving them free beers. etc.}

We shouldn't have to be bribing Americans to do the right thing. It is also the Patriotic thing to do. Get vaccinated.

It's a sad commentary on the psyche of the American People - that they have to be bribed into doing the right thing.

Those that refuse to get vaccinated (outside of some medical reason for not being able to be vaccinated) - should be ashamed of themselves.

I imagine some people are holding out to see how much they can get out of the system - to go and get vaccinated.

It's like extortion.

Such a waste of good money - to pay people to go out and do the right and Patriotic thing.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. There was quite a bit of resistance to the Salk vaccine, too, and it took...
Wed May 5, 2021, 03:01 PM
May 2021

Elvis getting a shot on TV and a lot of serious medical types getting the microphone to change minds. And much resistance to masks and distancing in the 1918 Flu epidemic.

We were, in the 1950's, more attuned to technology and in a better mood to listen to experts. But it still took some effort. Things like the Cutter incident, where the vax had a problem and gave kids polio didn't help. But, amazingly, we eventually all got in line for the shots.

Today seems worse. Maybe, since tetanus, smallpox, diphtheria, and so many other diseases have been held at bay by vaxxing, we forgot how bad they once were.



DownriverDem

(6,206 posts)
27. It didn't help
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:28 AM
May 2021

that repubs made it political. It's got to the point where I don't care and they can just die.

Pinback

(12,134 posts)
29. Disinformation is the biggest obstacle today.
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:31 AM
May 2021

When the Salk vaccine came out, there was no doubt disinformation via word of mouth and the occasional mimeographed nutty pamphlet — nothing like the rampant and insidious streams of bullshit we have nowadays.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
14. Whatever works at this point
Wed May 5, 2021, 03:08 PM
May 2021

These people are obviously seeking attention because deep down they know they are really irrelevant. They are the same ones who scream at grocery store clerks and complain about POC, simply because they cannot get attention for their accomplishments because they have none. They have always been with us, but because there are more people now, there are more of them, and because technology has given them a free platform to rant, they have convinced themselves not only that they have the right to rant, but that they actually have something to say. They're pathetic and dangerous. The best thing to do is neutralize them however possible and if that means bribing them to take a vaccine that will save the lives of others, so be it.

global1

(25,169 posts)
10. Why? What's Your Reasoning That You Would Be Laughed At Using This Analogy?....
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:47 PM
May 2021

How do you think OK'ers would comprehend this? I'm puzzled!!!

I encourage you to this out before you poo poo it. Be a little more positive.

Runningdawg

(4,496 posts)
22. And I have tried to explain it - once more
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:21 PM
May 2021

Living in OK is like living in a Trump rally 24/7/365, throw in the jesus freaks and the alcoholics, meth heads and pill poppers, finally remember ALL of them are armed. You DO NOT engage these people in face to face conversation FOR ANY REASON. If you haven't lived here, you won't understand.

Delmette2.0

(4,143 posts)
23. Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986.
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:33 PM
May 2021

It was a bit over the top with all the church people. But perhaps I just didn't have time for the news and politics.

Stay safe.

Delmette2.0

(4,143 posts)
24. Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986.
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:35 PM
May 2021

It was a bit over the top with all the church people. But perhaps I just didn't have time for the news and politics.

Stay safe.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
7. Perhaps start suing those who ignore common sense steps to protect others from ...
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:30 PM
May 2021

COVID (and they knowingly were exposed to COVID/have COVID)...this is akin to those measures in the past/perhaps still on the books that some w/ HIV still had unprotected sex knowing full well they had HIV.

I suspect that a lots of businesses will not fall for these stupid people who seemingly are intent in continuing to spread the trump virus.

Diamond_Dog

(31,672 posts)
8. At this point
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:42 PM
May 2021

I don’t know if even telling them it was made from Trump’s blood would change their minds.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
11. And if they don't
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:54 PM
May 2021

Wear masks
Isolate for a period of time
Social distance
GET VACCINATED

the virus WILL FIND THEM.

Thanks, I will try to use this analogy.

EYESORE 9001

(25,812 posts)
12. I've played the erectile dysfunction card
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:59 PM
May 2021

and gotten at least two guys to admit that getting vaccinated is better than enduring permanent ED. Whether they followed through with their pledge, I don’t know. Haven’t seen them since.

Demobrat

(8,917 posts)
19. They need to be shunned.
Wed May 5, 2021, 04:21 PM
May 2021

Not vaccinated? You’re not invited to the birthday party. Or the graduation. Or the wedding.

You can’t shop here. You don’t get the job. No happy hour beers for you.

No you can’t board the airplane. Or the bus.

Doctors and dentists in private practice might see you, or they might not. Their choice.

As it is now, the unvaccinated ones are free to mingle with the rest of us, so where’s the downside for them? There needs to be one, and it needs to be severe.

MLAA

(17,165 posts)
26. I'm with you.
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:32 AM
May 2021

I shun all trumpets, as there needs to be some accountability for their actions of voting for him and all the associated fallout we will be dealing with for a long, long time. No ‘we just don’t talk politics for me’.

Runningdawg

(4,496 posts)
34. It is in the works
Fri May 7, 2021, 05:19 PM
May 2021

Their insurance carriers are going to demand proof of vaccine (titer), not just some fake card, for continued coverage. Look at the stink the carriers made 30 years ago, they STILL have us peeing a jar for a min wage job with NO benefits.
The worm WILL turn.

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,998 posts)
21. We had our carpets cleaned for the first time in 1 1/2 years.
Wed May 5, 2021, 04:26 PM
May 2021

Same two guys who we chat a bit with. This time though the guy who was masked up to ameliorate the negative effects of the chemicals used (despite being described as ecofriendly), claimed masks don't protect from Covid. The other fellow has terrible sciatica issues that he didn't have before and resulted in his lack of faith in General Practitioners.

My take, they had bought Trumpism hook, line and sinker. Clearly they're sinking.

No Covid Vaccine for them!!

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,452 posts)
25. Maybe nature
Wed May 5, 2021, 11:00 PM
May 2021

Will remove the sociopath/ narcissist right wing extremist problem fucking up our country.

If they refuse vaccination...well it's open season on them concerning covid.

I just hate to think of the innocent and decent people they may Infect. If it was only narcissist antimaskers ,rabid right wingers/ trumpers and evangelicals dying of covid by refusing makes or getting vaccinated I would not shed a tear as they died off.

Demobrat

(8,917 posts)
32. The problem is they would clog up
Thu May 6, 2021, 05:35 PM
May 2021

the health care system. Somebody would have to take care of them, and then that person could not be there for innocent car crash, stroke, and heart attack victims. So everyone would have to pay for the unvaccinated one way or another.

Maybe at some point we should have a health care surcharge for unvaccinated Covid carriers who show up at hospitals.

Yes you will receive the best care available, but you will pay for it yourself. Take the free vaccine, or take financial responsibility for the consequences.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
30. I tell them great, would you please sign this form so we can send your vaccine to Africa
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:34 AM
May 2021

where well informed people are waiting in line to get I it.


Talk about stunned silence. They just blink and look at me speechless.


I tell them we can arrange to have them put on a permanent opt out list and never get it, benefiting someone in Africa.


Then they will try and argue that they never said they would never get it.


Take it away then they will demand to get it, especially if it is going to a black person.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
31. I like it. A lot.
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:48 AM
May 2021

Fortunately, I won't have much opportunity to use it. I know they exist here, but I have never yet run into an anti-vaxxer or one who is vaccine-hesitant. Certainly not anyone I know personally.

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