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Wed May 5, 2021, 01:49 PM

How I've Convinced Some People To Get The Vaccination......

I use this analogy. When a person doesn't get food - after a period of time they die of starvation.

I tell them it is the same with the Covid virus.

We the people - are Covid's food. Covid needs us to perpetuate. Covid feasts on us.

How can we starve Covid? Well by not making ourselves available as food for Covid.

How do we do that?

Wear our masks. Isolate ourselves for a period of time from other people. Social distance. And above all - GET VACCINATED.

Don't give Covid a chance to use us as its food.

We need to essentially cut off as many pathways for Covid to use us people as its food.

Too me this is a simple way to explain to the the - anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers -how we can stop Covid dead in it tracks.

STARVE THE VIRUS!!!

I've now talked about 7 people into getting vaccinated because of this analogy.

It seems to resonate with them and they understand it.

Try it out with some of your friends, family and colleagues that refuse to get vaccinated.

It worked for me.

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Reply How I've Convinced Some People To Get The Vaccination...... (Original post)
global1 May 5 OP
JohnSJ May 5 #1
lagomorph777 May 5 #2
LiberalLovinLug May 5 #15
LEW May 5 #3
FSogol May 5 #4
KS Toronado May 5 #16
global1 May 5 #5
TreasonousBastard May 5 #13
DownriverDem May 6 #27
Pinback May 6 #29
dianaredwing May 5 #14
Runningdawg May 5 #6
global1 May 5 #10
Runningdawg May 5 #22
Delmette2.0 May 5 #23
Delmette2.0 May 5 #24
DownriverDem May 6 #28
Runningdawg May 7 #33
SWBTATTReg May 5 #7
Diamond_Dog May 5 #8
hydrolastic May 5 #9
aggiesal May 5 #11
EYESORE 9001 May 5 #12
mackdaddy May 5 #20
struggle4progress May 5 #17
fierywoman May 5 #18
Demobrat May 5 #19
MLAA May 6 #26
Runningdawg May 7 #34
SleeplessinSoCal May 5 #21
I_UndergroundPanther May 5 #25
Demobrat May 6 #32
grantcart May 6 #30
BobTheSubgenius May 6 #31

Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 01:56 PM

1. Very instructive, and an excellent analogy. Thanks

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:00 PM

2. It must hit them at a "gut" level.

Most people do not want to think of themselves as food.

Great strategy.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)

Wed May 5, 2021, 03:21 PM

15. I agree. I'm' going to use this!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:01 PM

3. Excellent,

and truly glad it worked...Will try..

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:02 PM

4. 5 good reasons

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Response to FSogol (Reply #4)

Wed May 5, 2021, 03:26 PM

16. Wish Lucy's 5 good reasons worked!

It's what I feel like talking to anti-vaxxers.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:23 PM

5. What Is Completely Destroying Me Is That Americans Need To Be Bribed Into Getting Vaccinated.....

I listened to MichaelAngelo Signoreli yesterday and he was listing all the ways that States are using to bribe them into getting vaccinated. (i.e., Things like paying them. Giving them gift cards. Giving them free beers. etc.}

We shouldn't have to be bribing Americans to do the right thing. It is also the Patriotic thing to do. Get vaccinated.

It's a sad commentary on the psyche of the American People - that they have to be bribed into doing the right thing.

Those that refuse to get vaccinated (outside of some medical reason for not being able to be vaccinated) - should be ashamed of themselves.

I imagine some people are holding out to see how much they can get out of the system - to go and get vaccinated.

It's like extortion.

Such a waste of good money - to pay people to go out and do the right and Patriotic thing.

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Response to global1 (Reply #5)

Wed May 5, 2021, 03:01 PM

13. There was quite a bit of resistance to the Salk vaccine, too, and it took...

Elvis getting a shot on TV and a lot of serious medical types getting the microphone to change minds. And much resistance to masks and distancing in the 1918 Flu epidemic.

We were, in the 1950's, more attuned to technology and in a better mood to listen to experts. But it still took some effort. Things like the Cutter incident, where the vax had a problem and gave kids polio didn't help. But, amazingly, we eventually all got in line for the shots.

Today seems worse. Maybe, since tetanus, smallpox, diphtheria, and so many other diseases have been held at bay by vaxxing, we forgot how bad they once were.



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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #13)

Thu May 6, 2021, 11:28 AM

27. It didn't help

that repubs made it political. It's got to the point where I don't care and they can just die.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #13)

Thu May 6, 2021, 11:31 AM

29. Disinformation is the biggest obstacle today.

When the Salk vaccine came out, there was no doubt disinformation via word of mouth and the occasional mimeographed nutty pamphlet ó nothing like the rampant and insidious streams of bullshit we have nowadays.

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Response to global1 (Reply #5)

Wed May 5, 2021, 03:08 PM

14. Whatever works at this point

These people are obviously seeking attention because deep down they know they are really irrelevant. They are the same ones who scream at grocery store clerks and complain about POC, simply because they cannot get attention for their accomplishments because they have none. They have always been with us, but because there are more people now, there are more of them, and because technology has given them a free platform to rant, they have convinced themselves not only that they have the right to rant, but that they actually have something to say. They're pathetic and dangerous. The best thing to do is neutralize them however possible and if that means bribing them to take a vaccine that will save the lives of others, so be it.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:28 PM

6. That would get me laughed at and spit on in OK

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #6)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:47 PM

10. Why? What's Your Reasoning That You Would Be Laughed At Using This Analogy?....

How do you think OK'ers would comprehend this? I'm puzzled!!!

I encourage you to this out before you poo poo it. Be a little more positive.

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Response to global1 (Reply #10)

Wed May 5, 2021, 09:21 PM

22. And I have tried to explain it - once more

Living in OK is like living in a Trump rally 24/7/365, throw in the jesus freaks and the alcoholics, meth heads and pill poppers, finally remember ALL of them are armed. You DO NOT engage these people in face to face conversation FOR ANY REASON. If you haven't lived here, you won't understand.

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #22)

Wed May 5, 2021, 10:33 PM

23. Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986.

It was a bit over the top with all the church people. But perhaps I just didn't have time for the news and politics.

Stay safe.

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #22)

Wed May 5, 2021, 10:35 PM

24. Wow, I lived there 1975 to 1986.

It was a bit over the top with all the church people. But perhaps I just didn't have time for the news and politics.

Stay safe.

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #22)

Thu May 6, 2021, 11:30 AM

28. Then to many of us

they can just die.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #28)

Fri May 7, 2021, 05:14 PM

33. EXACTLY! Stand back and let the bodies hit the floor.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:30 PM

7. Perhaps start suing those who ignore common sense steps to protect others from ...

COVID (and they knowingly were exposed to COVID/have COVID)...this is akin to those measures in the past/perhaps still on the books that some w/ HIV still had unprotected sex knowing full well they had HIV.

I suspect that a lots of businesses will not fall for these stupid people who seemingly are intent in continuing to spread the trump virus.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:42 PM

8. At this point

I donít know if even telling them it was made from Trumpís blood would change their minds.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:43 PM

9. Just say "The virus will sort them out"

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:54 PM

11. And if they don't

Wear masks
Isolate for a period of time
Social distance
GET VACCINATED

the virus WILL FIND THEM.

Thanks, I will try to use this analogy.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 02:59 PM

12. I've played the erectile dysfunction card

and gotten at least two guys to admit that getting vaccinated is better than enduring permanent ED. Whether they followed through with their pledge, I donít know. Havenít seen them since.

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Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #12)

Wed May 5, 2021, 04:24 PM

20. I have done this too.

They were not anti-vaxxers, but more procrastinators.

"So do you want to risk never having sex again?"-- Just get the shot.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-covid-19-can-cause-erectile-dysfunction/

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 03:30 PM

17. "A liberal baby cries its eyes out whenever a conservative gets vaccinated"?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 04:16 PM

18. Very smart! And useful because it's not snarky...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 04:21 PM

19. They need to be shunned.

Not vaccinated? Youíre not invited to the birthday party. Or the graduation. Or the wedding.

You canít shop here. You donít get the job. No happy hour beers for you.

No you canít board the airplane. Or the bus.

Doctors and dentists in private practice might see you, or they might not. Their choice.

As it is now, the unvaccinated ones are free to mingle with the rest of us, so whereís the downside for them? There needs to be one, and it needs to be severe.

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #19)

Thu May 6, 2021, 10:32 AM

26. I'm with you.

I shun all trumpets, as there needs to be some accountability for their actions of voting for him and all the associated fallout we will be dealing with for a long, long time. No Ďwe just donít talk politics for meí.

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #19)

Fri May 7, 2021, 05:19 PM

34. It is in the works

Their insurance carriers are going to demand proof of vaccine (titer), not just some fake card, for continued coverage. Look at the stink the carriers made 30 years ago, they STILL have us peeing a jar for a min wage job with NO benefits.
The worm WILL turn.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 04:26 PM

21. We had our carpets cleaned for the first time in 1 1/2 years.

Same two guys who we chat a bit with. This time though the guy who was masked up to ameliorate the negative effects of the chemicals used (despite being described as ecofriendly), claimed masks don't protect from Covid. The other fellow has terrible sciatica issues that he didn't have before and resulted in his lack of faith in General Practitioners.

My take, they had bought Trumpism hook, line and sinker. Clearly they're sinking.

No Covid Vaccine for them!!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 11:00 PM

25. Maybe nature

Will remove the sociopath/ narcissist right wing extremist problem fucking up our country.

If they refuse vaccination...well it's open season on them concerning covid.

I just hate to think of the innocent and decent people they may Infect. If it was only narcissist antimaskers ,rabid right wingers/ trumpers and evangelicals dying of covid by refusing makes or getting vaccinated I would not shed a tear as they died off.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #25)

Thu May 6, 2021, 05:35 PM

32. The problem is they would clog up

the health care system. Somebody would have to take care of them, and then that person could not be there for innocent car crash, stroke, and heart attack victims. So everyone would have to pay for the unvaccinated one way or another.

Maybe at some point we should have a health care surcharge for unvaccinated Covid carriers who show up at hospitals.

Yes you will receive the best care available, but you will pay for it yourself. Take the free vaccine, or take financial responsibility for the consequences.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 6, 2021, 11:34 AM

30. I tell them great, would you please sign this form so we can send your vaccine to Africa


where well informed people are waiting in line to get I it.


Talk about stunned silence. They just blink and look at me speechless.


I tell them we can arrange to have them put on a permanent opt out list and never get it, benefiting someone in Africa.


Then they will try and argue that they never said they would never get it.


Take it away then they will demand to get it, especially if it is going to a black person.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 6, 2021, 11:48 AM

31. I like it. A lot.

Fortunately, I won't have much opportunity to use it. I know they exist here, but I have never yet run into an anti-vaxxer or one who is vaccine-hesitant. Certainly not anyone I know personally.

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