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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 05:48 PM May 2021

It's not Trump's Hate, Greed, Corruption, Arrogance, Lawlessness or Incompetence...

It's the fact that, in the face of all of the above, with huge mountains of evidence to support each and every one of those severe indictments made against him, that Trump is still virtually worshiped by a third of our nation that absolutely horrifies me.

Evil and vile as one man may be, he is still just one man, and in a democracy we collectively have the means to deal with any one person, once the truth about him is known. That however assumes both a functioning democracy, and citizens willing to see the truth. Both of those core premises are way too much in question now to take much comfort from them.

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It's not Trump's Hate, Greed, Corruption, Arrogance, Lawlessness or Incompetence... (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo May 2021 OP
citizens willing to see the truth. elleng May 2021 #1
Trump showed us what a third of our country REALLY is. Funtatlaguy May 2021 #2
If only there was a word to describe them, like deplorables or something. nt Xipe Totec May 2021 #3
Indeed Funtatlaguy May 2021 #4
Hillary was right with the word, but a little bit low on the magnitude. patphil May 2021 #16
Faux Noise could stop this at any time ... but it won't FakeNoose May 2021 #5
Murdoch and Fox TV are within the circle of wnylib May 2021 #17
Former guy, his enablers and supporters are Fascists. By definiton, all Fascists are abqtommy May 2021 #6
Or, in Mussolini's case.... SergeStorms May 2021 #7
Horrifying indeed..... MyOwnPeace May 2021 #8
The next KFC Tub O' Grease or hamberder might finally lance the boil that is DJT. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #9
Insult added to injury. hay rick May 2021 #10
The world is full of evil and vile people PatSeg May 2021 #11
Agreed. And they seem prepared to take up arms to defend the lying SOS and destroy the U.S. nt Evolve Dammit May 2021 #12
And if it wasn't Donald Trump, PatSeg May 2021 #20
Yeah, the oppressed white victimhood guys with guns. Perpetually angry at seemingly everything. nt Evolve Dammit May 2021 #22
Real life rebels without a cause PatSeg May 2021 #23
It's terrifying n/t hibbing May 2021 #13
THIS malaise May 2021 #14
I hope your estimate of 1/3 of the country being lost to Flubbo RVN VET71 May 2021 #15
I thought it was MurrayDelph May 2021 #18
K&R uponit7771 May 2021 #19
At the risk of violating Godwin's law.. Permanut May 2021 #21

Funtatlaguy

(10,855 posts)
2. Trump showed us what a third of our country REALLY is.
Wed May 5, 2021, 05:50 PM
May 2021

They are all of those things you mentioned and more. Many are in my family.

patphil

(6,024 posts)
16. Hillary was right with the word, but a little bit low on the magnitude.
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:51 PM
May 2021

She said it was a basket full of deplorables.
It turned out to be a huge fleet of demolition size dumpsters full of deplorables.
So many that if each dumpster was on a flatbed tractor-trailer, and one left each minute from the east coast, the first one would reach the west coast before the last one left the east coast.
Trump's base is a testimony to the extent that evil that lives in the hearts of the American people. Unfortunately, it's part of who we are as a nation...it ain't going away soon, if ever.

FakeNoose

(32,328 posts)
5. Faux Noise could stop this at any time ... but it won't
Wed May 5, 2021, 05:59 PM
May 2021

That's the sad thing for me. Chump is just one not-very-smart guy, but Twitter, Facebook and Faux Noise gave him all the free airtime he could ever want or need - for free!

Now Twitter and FB have backed away, but Faux won't until they absolutely have to.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
17. Murdoch and Fox TV are within the circle of
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:16 PM
May 2021

RW extremism, so they are promoting their beliefs and politicians who represent them. Why would they change? They cover deplorables because they are united with them. They are the public voice for them, the propaganda arm of the RWNJs.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
6. Former guy, his enablers and supporters are Fascists. By definiton, all Fascists are
Wed May 5, 2021, 06:05 PM
May 2021

Cultists and if history teaches us anything it's that the best thing to do with them is lock them all up.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
7. Or, in Mussolini's case....
Wed May 5, 2021, 06:23 PM
May 2021

a little "necktie" party. Though with Trump's neckties his feet would touch the ground.

MyOwnPeace

(16,887 posts)
8. Horrifying indeed.....
Wed May 5, 2021, 06:24 PM
May 2021

And while we may take 'comfort' in the 33% number supporting him, because of the arcane rules for deciding a leader (Electoral College), as well as the existence of the Senate (equal votes for every state, no matter the number of residents), we are still looking at 74 million people that thought 'he' deserved to have another 4 years to 'do his thing.'

THAT is terrifying - there are 74 million people that were OK with this shit!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
9. The next KFC Tub O' Grease or hamberder might finally lance the boil that is DJT.
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:13 PM
May 2021

What worries me further is that the adulation might seem transferable, and Jr., Erot or Iwanna might be the next Anointed One.

hay rick

(7,520 posts)
10. Insult added to injury.
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:20 PM
May 2021

If I was going to wipe my ass with the constitution, it would not be to support such a vile and truly mediocre man.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
11. The world is full of evil and vile people
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:29 PM
May 2021

But with Donald Trump, it is the tens of millions of people who follow him blindly who scare the hell out of me.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
20. And if it wasn't Donald Trump,
Thu May 6, 2021, 09:06 AM
May 2021

it would have been something or someone else. They were ready to follow a cause blindly, without reason. Once Trump is dead and gone, these people will still be with us. They may back off for awhile, but eventually they will be reactivated - it is like some science fiction movie.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
23. Real life rebels without a cause
Thu May 6, 2021, 06:57 PM
May 2021

Just angry for the sake of being angry. It must fulfill some inherent need in them and/or they are looking to belong to a club. They really don't care what the issues are, they'll unify and fight for anything.

RVN VET71

(2,686 posts)
15. I hope your estimate of 1/3 of the country being lost to Flubbo
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:13 PM
May 2021

is not as optimistic as I think it is. I have to think with 74,000,000 adult Americans voting for him on November 3, 2020, the count is closer to 2/5, maybe slightly higher.

And that depresses the hell out of me. (I’d be scared, but I’m too old to let the assholes get me shaken’ in my boots.)

I’d say Flubbo-45 hasn’t lost any votes, and that most of the 48% of American voters who voted for him think January 6 was a wonderful expression of patriotism, with the remaining few actually believing it either never happened at all or was “staged” by the Democrats and Antifa.

America is teetering on the brink, as the expression goes. She srvived the 2020 election but is still being pummeled and kicked by the GOP. Joe Biden is standing with her to keep her from falling. But if Manchin and Synema insist on working with the enemy Party -- as they most certainly are -- and the Dems do not pick up a handful of additional Senate seats in 2022, Biden’s presidency will be neutered and the GOP will be able to make a serious run in 2024.

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