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Eisenhower nailed it in 1956. Those words now describe the Repuke party. (Original Post) MoonRiver May 2021 OP
If Ike were alive today, he would be a Democrat. roamer65 May 2021 #1
Ike!? Wednesdays May 2021 #2
and that shows you lookyhereyou May 2021 #7
Hell, I would take Social Democracy. Caliman73 May 2021 #14
Likely true tymorial May 2021 #16
Raygun no, Nixon maybe burrowowl May 2021 #26
I agree. ShazzieB May 2021 #30
Reagan helped make people like donny to get in easier. Ka-Dinh Oy May 2021 #31
If Ike, Tricky Dick, Nelson Rockefeller, wnylib May 2021 #32
Add Jack Kemp, George Romney, Everett Dirksen, Jacob Javits, Kenneth Keating, and Mark Hatfield of NBachers May 2021 #39
Don't forget Howard Baker and Barry Goldwater. nt yellowdogintexas May 2021 #47
Believe Ike was a Democrat before he was lured by the dark side. KS Toronado May 2021 #3
So was Ronnie Chipper Chat May 2021 #4
so was tRump lookyhereyou May 2021 #8
Not Quite GB_RN May 2021 #18
He was a Dem before that. wnylib May 2021 #33
Until he married daughter of John Birch Society. burrowowl May 2021 #27
Ronnie was once a big union advocate. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #40
I heard a record of him from the 50s or 60s Cosmocat May 2021 #48
I can't say that I'm surprised or disappointed. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #51
Here it is ... Cosmocat May 2021 #52
Both parties wanted Ike as their candidate PatSeg May 2021 #9
The early drafts of his speech mentioned the military-industrial-congressional complex. LastDemocratInSC May 2021 #12
I'm not sure how prescient his MIC speech was. wnylib May 2021 #34
Yes, that is true PatSeg May 2021 #43
Democrats ran Adlai Stevenson against him both times. soldierant May 2021 #45
Nope WA-03 Democrat May 2021 #11
Appears I was somewhat mistaken..... KS Toronado May 2021 #22
America had 20 years of Dems so it felt like time for a change to GOP IronLionZion May 2021 #23
Conservatives were eager to get back in control. wnylib May 2021 #35
Absolutely. There can be no doubt of that. PatrickforB May 2021 #42
K&R spanone May 2021 #5
Besides Lincoln and Grant, and perhaps TR... NNadir May 2021 #6
TR pretty much had his foot out the door of the Republican Party in 1912 TheRealNorth May 2021 #10
And his big game hunting. soldierant May 2021 #46
Once upon a time in America Marcuse May 2021 #13
All that stuff was fine as long as it was for white people. n/t TygrBright May 2021 #15
Wow nice to know that was done year I was born! Tree Lady May 2021 #17
The Republicans have recruited Dixiecrats, Tea baggers and deplorables to carry water for the 1%. Marcuse May 2021 #21
Oooh, can I play too? FakeNoose May 2021 #25
I read somewhere that Ike knew about the right-wing crazies but didn't like them. raging moderate May 2021 #29
Yup. They took advantage of resentments wnylib May 2021 #36
Great posters. How the party has devolved. Now a threat to all of us. Evolve Dammit May 2021 #20
The civil rights movement happened IronLionZion May 2021 #24
Yup! burrowowl May 2021 #28
Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act. Believe me. czarjak May 2021 #38
Thanks for posting this. Brother Mythos May 2021 #19
As the Nation has grown more diverse The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #37
Ike Would Be Appalled At Today's Republicans colsohlibgal May 2021 #41
Nixon/Agnew Recognized the Wedge Issues and Reagan Perfected Them Stallion May 2021 #44
The irony of his great-granddaughter... OneGrassRoot May 2021 #49
Yah think? malaise May 2021 #50

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
1. If Ike were alive today, he would be a Democrat.
Thu May 13, 2021, 10:57 AM
May 2021

There would be no place for him in the Trumpist Party.

lookyhereyou

(140 posts)
7. and that shows you
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:22 AM
May 2021

how far they have moved the dialog

to the right. the media runs the country

for their advertisers and owners ; not for the people,

by the people.

the propaganda against socialism

not letting us get to democratic socialism

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
14. Hell, I would take Social Democracy.
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:32 PM
May 2021

You are correct. This country has been dragged to the right when the actual population supports policies that would resemble the Social Democracies more than the austerity that Conservatives and Neoliberals favor.

It has been an extensive project by billionaires paying millions to protect their billions.

ShazzieB

(16,273 posts)
30. I agree.
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:53 PM
May 2021

I can't see Raygun being willing to kiss Herr Trumpfuhrer's ring (or anything else of his), though. He'd laugh in that ugly orange face and get together with Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney to plan Chump's downfall.

Raygun was detestable, but he was nobody's toady. Unlike most of the GOP members of the Hiuse and Senate.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
31. Reagan helped make people like donny to get in easier.
Thu May 13, 2021, 05:15 PM
May 2021

I loathed Reagan but if I had the choice between him and donny I would have taken Reagan.

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
32. If Ike, Tricky Dick, Nelson Rockefeller,
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:33 PM
May 2021

John McCain, and St. Raygun were all alive today, along with Mitt Romney, they would be THE Republican Party, a mix of moderates and conservatives.

The Turtle, Desantis, Graham, Boebert, Greene, Hawley would be a lunatic fringe party of their own, playing footsies with the orange fascist.

NBachers

(17,081 posts)
39. Add Jack Kemp, George Romney, Everett Dirksen, Jacob Javits, Kenneth Keating, and Mark Hatfield of
Thu May 13, 2021, 07:19 PM
May 2021

the McGovern/Hatfield Amendment. Republicans you didn't have to agree with, but their patriotism and commitment to the United States of America and Democracy was firm.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
48. I heard a record of him from the 50s or 60s
Fri May 14, 2021, 05:21 AM
May 2021

Doing a screed on "socialized healthcare." Yeah, he was head of the actors guild or whatever but he was a true believer all along.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,559 posts)
51. I can't say that I'm surprised or disappointed.
Fri May 14, 2021, 12:02 PM
May 2021

Pretty predictable, I guess.

Did you ever see Republican campaign posters from that era? They were positioning themselves as the Champion of the Little Guy, It seems bizarre now,

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
9. Both parties wanted Ike as their candidate
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:28 AM
May 2021

I'm not sure why he chose the republican party, but perhaps at the time, he felt the republican party represented peacetime and prosperity, after two decades of war and depression.

Over the years, Eisenhower has become more and more impressive in my mind. His speech warning about the dangers of the military-industrial complex was extremely prescient. I think he was the most liberal republican president in recent history, at least since Teddy Roosevelt. When I was a kid, he was just the nice old guy in the White House.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,646 posts)
12. The early drafts of his speech mentioned the military-industrial-congressional complex.
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:47 AM
May 2021

But he eventually omitted the reference to Congress because he thought it would anger them.

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
34. I'm not sure how prescient his MIC speech was.
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:41 PM
May 2021

The MIC already existed during Ike's terms. He warned about it growing stronger, which it did. JFK had to deal with their hawkish aims in Cuba, and to assert that he was in control as civilian CIC.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
43. Yes, that is true
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:07 PM
May 2021

It did already exist obviously because of World War II. You are right, his concern was about it growing bigger and stronger. Sadly his warnings weren't heeded. You build a powerful military force during wartime out of necessity, it will want more war and will look for opportunities. It can't just be turned off and on like a light switch and the military leaders aren't going to roll over and play dead. They will fight for their survival.

soldierant

(6,791 posts)
45. Democrats ran Adlai Stevenson against him both times.
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:34 PM
May 2021

I was just a kid myself, but I knew who my family supported, and it was my impression that Sevenson was the more progressive of hte two.

That was probably the last days of the time when both parties - i won't say bent over backwards, but the did pay attention and take some care - not to offend the opposite party's supporters. That is certainly something that we as a party can no longer afford to do - if indeed we ever could.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,037 posts)
11. Nope
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:42 AM
May 2021

He was a politically a Republican through and through. I saw and read the things that he did. I previously thought he was the last good Republican. Then I started reading The Age of Eisenhower: America and the World in the 1950s..

He was Republican first and foremost. Truman tried to get him to join the Democratic Party and failed. He hung out with a lot of good ole boys in Augusta, GA. He was the “pick yourself up by the bootstraps” and “charity should not be asked” for kind of guy. He also had a real religious fundamentalism, completed with moral hypocrisy too. He was supportive of the McCarthy hearings, but indirectly helped McCarthy’s downfall and grabbed the press for himself. He was an absolute hero during the war but if that’s the best the modern Republican Party can do, a strong NO THANK YOU.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
23. America had 20 years of Dems so it felt like time for a change to GOP
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:54 PM
May 2021

FDR and Truman were in office 2 decades, Ike was courted by both parties but chose GOP because American voters would want a different party in power.

NNadir

(33,470 posts)
6. Besides Lincoln and Grant, and perhaps TR...
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:21 AM
May 2021

...Eisenhower is the only Republican president I'd rank among the top ten.

Of course they represented a political party that died some time ago; the modern Republican Party is just a revisited flesh eating zombie risen from the grave.

TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)
10. TR pretty much had his foot out the door of the Republican Party in 1912
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:35 AM
May 2021

When the Republicans went full-Corporate lackeys. The only thing that he supported that would not necessarily be in line with Democratic Party today was his militarism/interventionalism.

Tree Lady

(11,425 posts)
17. Wow nice to know that was done year I was born!
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:46 PM
May 2021

Very cool, what a complete change but wasn't it the southern democrats that changed because of civil rights in the 60's and turned the republican party into the party of racists?

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
29. I read somewhere that Ike knew about the right-wing crazies but didn't like them.
Thu May 13, 2021, 03:53 PM
May 2021

I believe he mentioned Armand Hammer? I think he referenced the people like James Buchanan and Harry Byrd down in Virginia. But he thought they were not intelligent enough to gain much power in the US.

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
36. Yup. They took advantage of resentments
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:56 PM
May 2021

among working class Dems toward the civil rights and women's rights movements of the 60s and 70s to recruit them as Reagan Democrats. The racists and misogynists flocked to the Rs and made politics about racial and gender "culture wars" instead of about economics and rights of ALL the middle and working class people. Rs were happy to tell their new recruits that "the other" was responsible for all economic and social problems, and the fools believed them because they wanted to hear and believe what they were told.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
24. The civil rights movement happened
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:58 PM
May 2021

so the Southern Dixiecrats switched to the GOP after Dems embraced civil rights

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
19. Thanks for posting this.
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:52 PM
May 2021

The Republicult certainly does have the determination to advance a cause. Unfortunately, it's not a right and moral cause.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,779 posts)
37. As the Nation has grown more diverse
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:58 PM
May 2021

The racist republican turd has moved ever farther along the large intestine of American life. Now that turd is at the end of the passage, and it’s big, and dry and smelly and full of indigestible crud.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
41. Ike Would Be Appalled At Today's Republicans
Thu May 13, 2021, 08:58 PM
May 2021

He would have had no use for today’s Republican Party. In fact, most of his descendants I believe are now Democrats.....same as the Rockefellers.

Ike would have been flabbergasted by Chitolini.

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
44. Nixon/Agnew Recognized the Wedge Issues and Reagan Perfected Them
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:27 PM
May 2021

nationally the wedge issues they designed now work against them

The parasites that infected the Republican Party were spwaned by both

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