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Tue May 18, 2021, 12:55 AM

Bibi Just Started A War Because Of Politics - Just Say It

He belongs at the Hague. After he serves his time for his corruption.

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Reply Bibi Just Started A War Because Of Politics - Just Say It (Original post)
DanieRains May 18 OP
roamer65 May 18 #1
BlueMTexpat May 18 #6
stopdiggin May 18 #7
Progressive Jones May 18 #2
RockRaven May 18 #3
Merlot May 18 #4
malaise May 18 #9
NH Ethylene May 18 #10
totodeinhere May 18 #5
stopdiggin May 18 #8
Amishman May 18 #11
totodeinhere May 18 #12
stopdiggin May 18 #13

Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:59 AM

1. Has SoS Blinken gotten the proof of Hamas presence in the building that housed AlJazeera yet?

Chirp...chirp...chirp...

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #1)

Tue May 18, 2021, 03:19 AM

6. Per this report,

he has NOT. https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/blinken-evidence-ap-gaza-building-strike-77734636

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Blinken said he personally has not seen any Israeli evidence of Hamas operating in the building and has asked Israel for justification for the strike.

“Shortly after the strike we did request additional details regarding the justification for it,” Blinken said from Copenhagen, Denmark. He declined to discuss specific intelligence, saying he “will leave it to others to characterize if any information has been shared and our assessment that information.”

But he said, “I have not seen any information provided.”
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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #6)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:45 AM

7. a clever dodge

and a bit of fancy footwork. To this point (and that may be changing over the past 12-24 hours) Biden has not really wanted to wade into this. (and I can't say as I blame him)

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 01:08 AM

2. It's clear. The whole thing is a sham. It will blow up in BooBoo's face. nt

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 01:12 AM

3. Don't call it "started a war" -- just call it "murdered Palestinians"

The asymmetry is so massive that calling it a "war" is practically carrying water for Bibi by false equivalency.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #3)

Tue May 18, 2021, 01:58 AM

4. this.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #3)

Tue May 18, 2021, 05:58 AM

9. THIS

the truth. And don't rule out the Trump/Kusher side of it either

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #3)

Tue May 18, 2021, 06:55 AM

10. Exactly.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 03:11 AM

5. Yes Bibi is benefiting politically from this conflict. He was on the verge of losing the power

that he has held for so long, but now he has got a reprieve because of this conflict. But I'm not sure if it is accurate to say that Bibi started it. Didn't Hamas start firing missiles at innocent Israeli citizens before the IDF started bombing Gaza? Didn't the IDF attack in response to missiles being fired at Israeli territory?

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #5)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:58 AM

8. there had been some run up in unrest, prior to actual clash of arms

provocation (mostly in Jerusalem?) on both parts? I think you're right in questioning (or posing the question) that Netanyahu actually "started" this latest exchange.

(on the other hand, a record of belligerent and bellicose behavior on the part of his government(s) is pretty well established history)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #8)

Tue May 18, 2021, 06:57 AM

11. Israel has reportedly been assembling their target list for two years

Waiting for a large enough rocket attack to act as cover for such a harsh reprisal.

My guess is the political benefit is just a bonus for him. They've been planning this for a long time

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Response to Amishman (Reply #11)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:02 PM

12. Of course Israel has ben making military preparations.

They would be fools not too. They live in a very dangerous neighborhood. And what about Hamas. They have also been making preparations. Ever since the last conflagration in 2014 Hamas has been expanding their network of tunnels and stockpiling missiles and other arms.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #11)

Tue May 18, 2021, 03:33 PM

13. Wouldn't disagree with any of that

but the question I was responding to was "Did Bibi start this?" or "who struck first?"
(which is admittedly a simplification on the face of it)
Taking full and strategic advantage of a 'provocation' (perhaps even providing one?) is a recognized and time honored tradition.

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