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babylonsister

(170,963 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:47 AM May 2021

Matt Gaetz Tells Fans to Carry Out 'Armed Rebellion' Against Government if Neccessary

I suppose being dumb as a box of rocks doesn't matter if no one does anything about it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetz-tells-fans-to-carry-out-armed-rebellion-against-government-if-neccessary?ref=home

Matt Gaetz Tells Fans to Carry Out ‘Armed Rebellion’ Against Government if Neccessary
PLAYING SOLDIER
Jamie Ross, News Correspondent
Published May. 28, 2021 5:56AM ET


Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) appeared next to Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) at a Georgia rally Thursday night, giving MAGA fans the chance to see two of most crazed lawmakers in the land at one terrible event. They lived up to their billing, with Greene putting on a mocking Mexican accent, and Gaetz—having learned precisely zero lessons from the Capitol riot—spouting off about “armed rebellion.” After whining about conservatives being “canceled,” or, in other words, being removed from social media for inciting hate and violence, the congressman moved on to talk about the Second Amendment. “It’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” he said. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary.” Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) tweeted a clip of the speech and said: “This is not speech protected by the First Amendment. This is beyond yelling fire in a theater.”
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Matt Gaetz Tells Fans to Carry Out 'Armed Rebellion' Against Government if Neccessary (Original Post) babylonsister May 2021 OP
I swear we're watching a reality TV show on How to Overthrow the Government malaise May 2021 #1
It could be called "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave PatSeg May 2021 #19
Teflon Don Gotti malaise May 2021 #26
With Trump PatSeg May 2021 #30
He may be the most deplorable humanin my lifetime malaise May 2021 #31
I feel the same way PatSeg May 2021 #50
Another one inciting a mob because he doesnt want to go to prison Fullduplexxx May 2021 #2
+1 2naSalit May 2021 #3
How did this nut get a law degree? PatSeg May 2021 #22
Like everything else in his life keithsw May 2021 #41
Yes and once again, a politician PatSeg May 2021 #51
He should Rebl2 May 2021 #28
Yes, you would think so PatSeg May 2021 #52
Yes I am Rebl2 May 2021 #56
And it is hardly like he keeps a low profile PatSeg May 2021 #59
Well I Rebl2 May 2021 #60
Oh yeah, classic rich kid PatSeg May 2021 #61
YEP! Rebl2 May 2021 #62
Yeah, that popped into my mind immediately. 2naSalit May 2021 #55
That would require 'growing a pair' so, don't hold your breath (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #67
Craven idiots inciting the definition of insanity C_U_L8R May 2021 #4
And people wonder how Hitler succeeded. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #5
fundamental misunderstanding of the 2A HAB911 May 2021 #6
I agree. Haggard Celine May 2021 #13
Why haven't they? TheRickles May 2021 #29
Especially after January 6th Haggard Celine May 2021 #35
Particularly with the thought that some attendant at that speech or rally he and MTG held, Frustratedlady May 2021 #68
+1 n/t area51 May 2021 #17
Not that simple - the 2A was lifted from the English Bill of Rights of 1690 hack89 May 2021 #25
I think you are miss reading the 1689 Bill of Rights. rgbecker May 2021 #40
I never said that the 2A gives the right to violently overthrow the government. hack89 May 2021 #42
What exactly do you think my interpretation of the 2A is? rgbecker May 2021 #44
Didn't I specifically said Gaetz's interpretation was wrong? hack89 May 2021 #49
Eugene Debs was jailed for much less. Captain Zero May 2021 #7
Well, Debs was a Socialist. His imprisonment was explicitly political. Caliman73 May 2021 #66
Thank gawd he didn't ask them to go all touristy on us. marble falls May 2021 #8
Good one! 👍 nt Ilsa May 2021 #14
He knows he is going down so try to make it about something else. Jon King May 2021 #9
Another spoiled, rich kid telling working people to go to jail for him. world wide wally May 2021 #10
He needs to be cuffed and stuffed calling for "armed rebellion." That transcends "free speech" for Evolve Dammit May 2021 #11
I don't believe he is dumb. I think he knows exactly what he is doing. Pure evil tulipsandroses May 2021 #12
Lots of criminals probably wish they could overthrow the government as their arrest looms. mn9driver May 2021 #15
chickenshit sex trafficker says what? spanone May 2021 #16
18 U.S. Code § 1111 - Murder fwvinson May 2021 #18
Gaetz didn't say anything I haven't seen numerous times, right here at DU. Paladin May 2021 #20
Gaetz is a member of Congress, not anonymous mutterers on an internet board JHB May 2021 #27
I stand by my comment. (nt) Paladin May 2021 #43
he better hope nothing happen's !! monkeyman1 May 2021 #65
Claims made without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence friendly_iconoclast May 2021 #75
Bullshit. If you had, you'd have linked to these purported statements friendly_iconoclast May 2021 #76
Some of the goobers listening to this walking defect are going to get themselves... MrModerate May 2021 #21
That doesn't concern Gaetz. Norbert May 2021 #46
Well, we all know McCarthy isn't going to do a damn thing, Pharlo May 2021 #23
Until They are held accountable the Madness will continue Tommymac May 2021 #24
WTF! He needs to be picked up for inciting an insurrection. FlyingPiggy May 2021 #32
Did I miss the attendance figure? Was it tens of people. pwb May 2021 #33
...and all this time I thought sedition was a crime. Sinistrous May 2021 #34
Gaetz may be 1st in line. He is kacekwl May 2021 #36
and still no urgency to hold them accountable SledDriver May 2021 #37
Worthy of expulsion from Congress, or at least censure- hope someone takes action Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #38
They may succeed in overthrowing democracy the next time dlk May 2021 #39
What is the problem here? smirkymonkey May 2021 #45
Which person or agency can actually take the first step to hold him accountable? TheRickles May 2021 #48
While it doesn't exactly require a staggering level of insight, inferring from his words the need BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #47
Gaetz and Trump are of a kind. Both inciting political warfare to protect themselves from the law. gulliver May 2021 #53
You go first, Matt. hunter May 2021 #54
Yeah, you TOO can end up Cha May 2021 #57
If anyone ever pointed a gun at him Mr.Bill May 2021 #58
What A Disgusting Human colsohlibgal May 2021 #63
Shut up Eddie Munster! TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #64
Isn't this grounds for arrest? The moron is inciting violence. Vinca May 2021 #69
+1 moondust May 2021 #70
+2 BlueWavePsych May 2021 #71
Imagine if AOC said this. spanone May 2021 #72
If a Democrat said this they would have had to resign by now. -nt CrispyQ May 2021 #73
That's not how you do it, you gun waving morons Warpy May 2021 #74
Doubtful those weapons would get a lot of use. LTG May 2021 #77
Past governments have never been all that squeamish about clearing threats Warpy Jun 2021 #78

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
19. It could be called "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:17 AM
May 2021

and not lose any voters" and the objective would be, how outrageous and criminal can you be and not go to jail? They could get Trump to produce it.

With Gaetz, I wonder if he figures he has nothing left to lose, so he's going to go full-blown loony, like Trump, who thus far has not paid any consequences. Perhaps the need for constant attention drowns out any reason or self-preservation?

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
30. With Trump
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:03 AM
May 2021

it has just taken a lot longer than most, but eventually everyone pays the consequences. I like to think that maybe the longer one goes without being held accountable, the bigger the price one has to pay. I think the lawsuits against Trump could go on until the day he dies, maybe even after his death. He has left his prints all over the world. Few people have made as many enemies as Trump. He seems to relish it - "Who can I make hate me today?" Truly a bizarre creature.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
50. I feel the same way
Fri May 28, 2021, 12:51 PM
May 2021

I think the reason we still talk about him so much is because it is hard to believe it all was real, not some outrageous satirical movie. Even the characters in Dr. Strangelove were more believable than Donald Trump. If someone had written this script, it would never have been produced because the characters are too ridiculous and sadly, NEVER sympathetic. Historians will be analyzing all this for generations.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
22. How did this nut get a law degree?
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:24 AM
May 2021

He is in deep shit already and he keeps on digging the hole deeper. Its gotten so bad that the only member of congress who will hang out with him is Greene! I think he's close to hitting bottom.

keithsw

(436 posts)
41. Like everything else in his life
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:37 AM
May 2021

I'm sure his rich daddy bought it for him. He also allegedly got him out of a half dozen DUI'S

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
51. Yes and once again, a politician
Fri May 28, 2021, 12:59 PM
May 2021

got elected and reelected where his questionable history was not a secret. Like Trump, he was never held accountable, so he kept doing the same stuff over and over again. I'm sure all the perks and benefits of being a United States Congressman really went to his head. I'll bet the fool honestly believes he could be President some day. After all if an idiot like Trump can get elected, then maybe anyone can.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
52. Yes, you would think so
Fri May 28, 2021, 01:02 PM
May 2021

At least we know he is being watched and I am quite sure that nothing he does or says goes unnoticed. The Justice Department doesn't tend to advertise its investigations. They just quietly and methodically accrue evidence. Of course being Gaetz went to law school, you'd think the fool would know that and try to keep a low profile. It is not like there will be any pardons in his future.

Rebl2

(13,311 posts)
56. Yes I am
Fri May 28, 2021, 04:28 PM
May 2021

sure you are correct. Everything he say and does is being watched. The fact he went to law school, well I have to wonder how much he really learned.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
59. And it is hardly like he keeps a low profile
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:03 PM
May 2021

He just puts it all out there as if he is daring them to prosecute him.

He probably cheated a lot in school.

Rebl2

(13,311 posts)
60. Well I
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:41 PM
May 2021

was going to say maybe he paid people to take his tests. Glad I am not the only one who thinks he cheated in some way.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
61. Oh yeah, classic rich kid
Fri May 28, 2021, 06:37 PM
May 2021

paying other people to take his tests. Sounds like someone else we know.

HAB911

(8,811 posts)
6. fundamental misunderstanding of the 2A
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:22 AM
May 2021

which allows fighting FOR the government, not against the government

what he advocates is sedition

he should be in jail

TheRickles

(2,000 posts)
29. Why haven't they?
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:54 AM
May 2021

How much more blatant must a threat be, before some government agency intervenes? I assume, like HC, it'd be the FBI. Perhaps there's another mechanism, but either way, there have to be consequences for making threats like these.

Haggard Celine

(16,820 posts)
35. Especially after January 6th
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:11 AM
May 2021

I don't know if they're afraid of throwing a MAGAT congressman in jail or what. He's obviously trying to stir up another insurrection. Anyone who says what he said should go to jail and be held there until his trial. This shit has gone on long enough, and it shouldn't be tolerated anymore.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
68. Particularly with the thought that some attendant at that speech or rally he and MTG held,
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:22 AM
May 2021

might glom onto that idea in a heartbeat and take Gaetz's 2nd amendment speech to heart. For instance, another Kyle Rittenhouse type who thinks he's going to protect the world, or whatever reason he used for killing 2 and injuring 1. They don't need much encouragement.

I hope we learn that the FBI DID pay a visit to Mr. Loverboy Gaetz.

I noticed in some comments to another Gaetz post a couple photos of Gaetz apparently speaking to a group of high school students and taking a selfie with the female students? Sorry, but that's scary.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
25. Not that simple - the 2A was lifted from the English Bill of Rights of 1690
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:37 AM
May 2021

The 2A was lifted from the English Bill of Rights from the 1690's along with a good portion of our Bill of Rights. When the colonists said they were fighting for their rights as Englishmen, that is what they are referring to.

The right to bear arms in the English Bill of Rights is directly related to preventing government tyranny - the Catholic king James had disarmed Protestants as he tried to make England a Catholic country. This resulted in the Glorious Revolution of 1688 which put Protestant King William on the throne at the request of Parliament. As a condition for taking the throne, William had to sign a Bill of Rights which closely mirrors our current Bill of Rights. That Bill of Rights recognized the right to bear arms.

So granted that the US Bill of Rights was in part to guarantee a militia, it also supported the English notion that subjects had the right to arms as a bulwark against tyranny.

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
40. I think you are miss reading the 1689 Bill of Rights.
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:36 AM
May 2021

The restrictions are on the Crown but give the Parliament power to regulate the use of arms. You'll find it hard to find any backing of the idea that the US 2A gives people the right to violently overthrow the government...other than talking points from the NRA. I note also that the DU rules prohibit discussion of the right to bear arms is not allowed in General Discussion, but discussion of Gaetz's call for insurrection clearly is not.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
42. I never said that the 2A gives the right to violently overthrow the government.
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:50 AM
May 2021

only that the founders viewed government attempts to disarm the population a symptom of tyranny. One that reflected the views of their fore bearers in England.

The 2A in America protects an individual right - it is what the purpose of the BOR is. It was specifically added to the Constitution as limits on government power. Just like the English BOR did.

Gaetz's interpretation of the 2A is wrong. But so is yours.

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
44. What exactly do you think my interpretation of the 2A is?
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:08 AM
May 2021

It was Gaetz who said “It’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” he said. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary."

Are you suggesting his statement about the 2A is correct...namely that the 2A is to make sure arms can support the people so they can overturn the government if necessary? That's not my interpretation. What do you think is wrong about my interpretation, assuming you can even state what my interpretation is? I 'm reading you agree with the idea that the arms are to be available for use in rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
49. Didn't I specifically said Gaetz's interpretation was wrong?
Fri May 28, 2021, 12:24 PM
May 2021

You are wrong in that the purpose of the 2A was so that there would be a militia to fight wars.

Never in American history has the ownership of guns been limited to militia service. Never. It has always been an individual right independent of militia service.

Caliman73

(11,694 posts)
66. Well, Debs was a Socialist. His imprisonment was explicitly political.
Sat May 29, 2021, 02:28 AM
May 2021

You will rarely see a right wing politician jailed because as extreme as they may be, they still support the power structure AKA White male authority and Supremacy.

Left wingers want to upend the system so they are constant targets. Same reason why it is so easy to paint Antifa as violent terrorists, while people turn themselves into pretzels to humanize the Proud Boys and other right wing extremists.

Times are pretty much the same as when the Klan and White Citizens Councils were turned a blind eye to while the FBI sought to destroy the Black Panthers and SNCC.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
9. He knows he is going down so try to make it about something else.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:31 AM
May 2021

His last resort is to try to deflect and say he was not jailed for sex with a minor but instead was taken down and framed by the big, bad, elites while trying to save the country.

Evolve Dammit

(16,632 posts)
11. He needs to be cuffed and stuffed calling for "armed rebellion." That transcends "free speech" for
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:36 AM
May 2021

those who took the Congressional oath. That is inciting violence against the U.S.

tulipsandroses

(5,094 posts)
12. I don't believe he is dumb. I think he knows exactly what he is doing. Pure evil
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:45 AM
May 2021

Its too bad that his followers are so brainwashed, that they don't see what he's doing. They are the dumb ones. Willing to go to extreme lengths to hold on their guns and hateful rhetoric. They should be insulted that these rich greedy bastards think so little of them. They are willing to keep giving money to assholes like him and some will actually go to prison after they have done harm to others because of this rhetoric. While Gaetz and others will be laughing to the bank. Hopefully there is a jail cell waiting for Gaetz.
The fact that they are making money off this kind of rhetoric is abhorrent.

mn9driver

(4,412 posts)
15. Lots of criminals probably wish they could overthrow the government as their arrest looms.
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:07 AM
May 2021

Most of them don’t have platforms to spread that message, though. The sooner Gaetz is arrested, the better.

Paladin

(28,204 posts)
20. Gaetz didn't say anything I haven't seen numerous times, right here at DU.
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:17 AM
May 2021

Although our resident gun enthusiasts backed off the "armed rebellion" muttering considerably, once trump was in office.

JHB

(37,132 posts)
27. Gaetz is a member of Congress, not anonymous mutterers on an internet board
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:50 AM
May 2021

And he wasn't muttering it, he was exhorting a crowd toward insurrection.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
75. Claims made without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence
Sun May 30, 2021, 07:32 PM
May 2021
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur and all that...
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
21. Some of the goobers listening to this walking defect are going to get themselves...
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:19 AM
May 2021

And a bunch of innocent people killed.

Norbert

(6,030 posts)
46. That doesn't concern Gaetz.
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:22 AM
May 2021

To him his mess iah can get away with it so why shouldn't he? If he was on the Titanic on that fateful night he would be trying on a frilly dress and looking for a place on a lifeboat.

Pharlo

(1,813 posts)
23. Well, we all know McCarthy isn't going to do a damn thing,
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:25 AM
May 2021

but I hope Pelosi pulls his committee assignments. It would give him that much more time for his legal defense - oops, I mean more time for his family.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
24. Until They are held accountable the Madness will continue
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:27 AM
May 2021

Simple as that. We are fast becoming the laughing stock of the entire Free World.

Responsible Global Citizens know we elected a responsible President...but they can't get their heads around the fact We are letting the lunatics run the asylum in the Media, the Federal legislature, Courts, and not charging anyone with anything and letting the Rethugs drive the 1/6 Circus narrative.

Just sayin'.

SledDriver

(2,049 posts)
37. and still no urgency to hold them accountable
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:23 AM
May 2021

Almost 6 months after the capitol attack and there is still no urgency to investigate or punish the ringleaders, not just the pawns, the ringleaders. And here's Matt Gaetz riling up another mob of pawns to foment another insurrection.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,369 posts)
38. Worthy of expulsion from Congress, or at least censure- hope someone takes action
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:28 AM
May 2021

I’m guessing Gaetz knows his days of freedom are numbered, and intends to go out in flames, including the mother of all cocaine binges.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
45. What is the problem here?
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:22 AM
May 2021

Why is this allowed? Why is he not being held accountable for attempting to incite violence against the government and innocent civilians?

This is bullshit and I am so frustrated at the fact that psychos like him, MTG, TFG and the rest of them can behave the way they do and never suffer any consequences. That would never happen in a corporate setting, or anywhere else for that matter.

What is it going to take to restore some decency and civility back into our national political conversation? It is so far off the rails right now and all the crazy is coming from one side only.

TheRickles

(2,000 posts)
48. Which person or agency can actually take the first step to hold him accountable?
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:41 AM
May 2021

And is that first step a subpoena, an arrest, an FBI search, a police interrogation? The process can't be that complex, yet know one seems to know what to do to keep this treachery from getting even further out of hand. IANAL, but many of you are. Thanks in advance for some guidance here.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
47. While it doesn't exactly require a staggering level of insight, inferring from his words the need
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:32 AM
May 2021

to take up arms to help him out of a tight spot is not that difficult. The problem is, I very much doubt that it rises (or sinks) to the level of illegality. That IS what the 2nd Amendment is about, and even such a weirdly inappropriate civics lesson won't bring about criminal charges.

I'm sure he's going to have to be forced out of office the old-fashioned way - an absolutely creepy sex scandal.

gulliver

(13,142 posts)
53. Gaetz and Trump are of a kind. Both inciting political warfare to protect themselves from the law.
Fri May 28, 2021, 01:04 PM
May 2021

The Republican Party has become a haven for criminals. Any criminal can now simply join the Republican Party and enjoy protection from justice.

Cha

(295,926 posts)
57. Yeah, you TOO can end up
Fri May 28, 2021, 04:31 PM
May 2021

the others.. dead or in jail.

gaetz should be in jail with the TP for inciting Domestic Terrorism

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
58. If anyone ever pointed a gun at him
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:02 PM
May 2021

he would scream like a nine year old girl and pee all over himself.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
63. What A Disgusting Human
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:44 PM
May 2021

That would seem to be to be pretty much inciting a riot. The guy has you know what for Brains.

Good luck in Prison Matt.

moondust

(19,917 posts)
70. +1
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:46 PM
May 2021

That's what I thought.

Maybe this:

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
74. That's not how you do it, you gun waving morons
Sun May 30, 2021, 07:23 PM
May 2021

Those popguns aren't going to do squat against cruise missile, bombers, tanks, and artillery. There won't be enough of your kind of drooling ragtag "rebel army" to bury.

They only make you powerful against someone who isn't prepared to fight back, like school children or grocery shoppers.

LTG

(215 posts)
77. Doubtful those weapons would get a lot of use.
Mon May 31, 2021, 08:29 PM
May 2021

It’s one thing to have collateral deaths of innocent civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq or the West Bank. It’s an entirely different thing for the U.S. to create them on home soil.

When an insurgency can be hidden within the populated areas Tank’s, cruise missiles, bombers and artillery are almost impossible to use. There are enough supporters to give them shelter and cover if hostilities broke out.

Even drones would end up killing women and children. Hard to watch when they are friends and neighbors. How many members of the military will refuse to follow these orders.

Use of any heavy stand-off weaponry would create more insurgents. We can’t even in areas we supposedly control, in foreign zones, without extensive damage to large areas of destruction of buildings and infrastructure. Even tanks are very destructive in counter insurgency warfare.

If you can catch them away from other people then some of those weapons could be useful. The problem is there are ways to get around thermal and other sensors. That info is fairly accessible online and hundred of thousands have been taught to do so in the military. Even training manuals for asymmetrical, insurgency warfare are available online, as are most all military training manuals.

You can learn to build bombs and improvised munitions, boobytraps, camouflage and to escape and evade. Not all of them will be overweight keyboard warriors. A lot of them will be fit and trained, prior service.

Numbers are much less important in this kind of warfare, as we have learned in numerous places over the years. Small cells of terrorist can create large amounts of damage.

To be successful the government will have to enforce strict curfews, confiscation of guns and ammo, curtail some freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and of assembly and protest. Warrantless search of homes, as well as arrests and holding of citizens for questioning without charges, at least for a few days. These actions may seem extreme, but could easily become necessary.

I don’t know how long the American people would have the stomach and patience put up with restrictions of rights that might never return. Much less to watch the death and destruction on 24/7 news without demanding a negotiated settlement.

Any of these could, and most likely would, create more and more insurgents. What percentage of the tens of millions of Trump supporters should we plan to fight? 1/10th of 1 percent could be 60,000 or more. This would be like no war we have faced, or realistically planned for.

1/6/2021 can’t be used as a measure, that bunch of rabble didn’t come with real preparations or even weapons. Most people that showed up probably had no true idea of what would happen.

Of course, if it turns out to be a few thousand spread about none of the above would likely be necessary. For how many should we prepare and plan?

(Sorry for once more indulging myself with an overly long post)

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
78. Past governments have never been all that squeamish about clearing threats
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:01 AM
Jun 2021

that have been localized to compounds or even towns, women and children regardless. Remember the MOVE people in Philadelphia. Out of 6 adults and 7 children, only one adult and two children survived and two whole city blocks were razed by fire.

The government has bent over backwards to be "fair" to right wingers like Bundy and Koresh, but my guess is that official patience has just about run out after January 6 showed them what the real threat is. If MAGAts start derailing freight trains and otherwise disrupting commerce in the name of revolution to reinstall Puin's Pet Piggy, we will see plenty of asymmetrical warfare.

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