Sat Jun 26, 2021, 01:31 AM

"Good guy" with gun killed by police

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Johnny Hurley was fatally shot after killing an attacker who had gunned down a police officer near Denver. Four days after the shootings, police say it was another officer who killed Hurley, who was holding the assailant's AR-15 rifle at the time.

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"Good guy" with gun killed by police (Original post)	USAFRetired_Liberal	Jun 2021	OP
And not even an apology from the police.	SunSeeker	Jun 2021	#1
In nearly every training involving an active shooter scenario...	ColinC	Jun 2021	#2
Yep.	LisaL	Jun 2021	#3
I've heard the same, and it makes sense. By the time...	TreasonousBastard	Jun 2021	#4
FTP.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jun 2021	#5
Good guy with gun makes himself indistinguishable from attacker, as good guys with guns tend to do.	Scrivener7	Jun 2021	#6
holding the assailant's AR-15	HAB911	Jun 2021	#7
This is exactly why every Tom, Dick and Lunatic shouldn't have a gun. Accidents like this	Vinca	Jun 2021	#8

Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 01:45 AM

SunSeeker (46,706 posts)

1. And not even an apology from the police.

Johnny Hurley was hailed by police as a hero for shooting and killing a gunman they say had killed one officer and expressed hatred for police in a Denver suburb. But when another officer rushed in to respond and saw Hurley holding the suspect’s AR-15, he shot Hurley, killing him, police revealed Friday.

The disclosure helped clarify what happened on Monday when three people — Hurley, Arvada Police Officer Gordon Beesley and the suspected gunman, Ronald Troyke — died in a string of shootings in the historic downtown district of Arvada, an area with popular shops, restaurants, breweries and other businesses about 7 miles (10 kilometers) northwest of downtown Denver.
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Police had not previously confirmed Hurley’s role or said who shot him. In the video posted Friday, Police Chief Link Strate described Hurley as a hero whose actions likely saved lives. He didn’t offer an apology but called Hurley’s death by a responding officer “equally tragic” to Beesley’s killing.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-man-shot-colorado-gunman-killed-officer-78500318?cid=clicksource_4380645_4_mobile_web_only_headlines_headlines_hed

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 04:45 AM

ColinC (5,264 posts)

2. In nearly every training involving an active shooter scenario...

They have told us to never, ever being holding a weapons when the police arrive.

Obviously this doesn't make it any less tragic, but the officer did what he was likely trained to do and didn't have any other reason to think that hurley wasn't the shooter.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 05:30 AM

LisaL (44,185 posts)

3. Yep.

You certainly don't want to be holding a weapon when police shows up.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 05:36 AM

TreasonousBastard (40,666 posts)

4. I've heard the same, and it makes sense. By the time...

the cop gets "Drop the.." out, he, or someone else could be shot.

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 07:05 AM

WhiskeyGrinder (16,431 posts)

5. FTP.

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 07:11 AM

Scrivener7 (42,351 posts)

6. Good guy with gun makes himself indistinguishable from attacker, as good guys with guns tend to do.

In so many ways.

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 07:24 AM

HAB911 (7,453 posts)

7. holding the assailant's AR-15

obviously not the brightest bulb in the pack

thoughts and prayers

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 07:55 AM

Vinca (48,220 posts)

8. This is exactly why every Tom, Dick and Lunatic shouldn't have a gun. Accidents like this

one happen. It's horrible, but I don't see how you blame the cop in this instance. He doesn't know the guy who killed the cop killer from the actual perpetrator and if the cop pulls up, sees his dead comrade and a random guy holding an AK-47 waiting for him, that cop will rightly believe he's next. I feel sorry for both the victim and the cop who shot him. It will be horrible to live with that the rest of his life. If there weren't more guns than people on the streets of this country things like this wouldn't happen.

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