Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:16 AM
SharonClark (8,923 posts)
Covid is more mysterious than we often admit.
Interesting article that may change some of our notions about COVID. From The Morning by David Leonhardt, published July 30, 2021.
This article can be found by searching for "The Morning" on the NYTimes website. Not in control
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SharonClark | Jul 2021 | OP |
LisaL | Jul 2021 | #1 | |
global1 | Jul 2021 | #2 | |
SharonClark | Jul 2021 | #4 | |
JT45242 | Jul 2021 | #3 | |
Initech | Jul 2021 | #5 | |
Chainfire | Jul 2021 | #6 | |
Chainfire | Jul 2021 | #7 |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:18 AM
LisaL (44,223 posts)
1. I don't know that Britain is really having a drop.
Their cases are starting to go back up in the last couple of days.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:23 AM
global1 (23,693 posts)
2. So Are They Saying TFG Was Right?....
One day this will all magically disappear?
Better not let TFG read this post or he'll be out taking bows. (sarcasm) |
Response to global1 (Reply #2)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:30 AM
SharonClark (8,923 posts)
4. The article doesn't say Trump was right.
The part after ... says vaccinations and social distancing are vital to lessening the damaging effect of covid on human health. It explains the whiplash so many people feel when reading about the rise-and-fall of covid cases.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:30 AM
JT45242 (1,177 posts)
3. caseloads and cases are a horrible measure -- the data is incomplete
We have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of knowing how many people have had covid, have Covid right now, have had it multiple times, etc because there is no centralized data stream.
Particularly in places like Ndia and parts of the US, government officials tried to find ways to hide cases. They slowed testing -- because you can't have confirmed cases without testing. They stopped releasing covid numbers. The CDC stopped trying to measure the breakthrough cases. What we have is a lot of incomplete data that is almost impossible to make sense of. How many vaccinated people had a mild breakthrough case and attributed it to seasonal allergies or a cold? How many people in states like Iowa, where I live, were certain that they had covid at some point but could not schedule a test because of a lack of insurance or the inability to schedule a time. One reason that covid is mysterious is that we have not tried to collect all teh data that would help scientists to make sense of it. |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:32 AM
Initech (92,441 posts)
5. When Delta hits Africa it's going to go off like an atomic bomb.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:13 AM
Chainfire (9,526 posts)
6. The complete understanding, if ever, of this virus will take years of study, just like all other
complicated scientific problems. I find it amazing that the science was able to produce an apparently quite successful series of vaccinations in the very short period of time. I am quite happy that I have been given a short term solution to avoid a rather nasty death and am willing to sit back and let the experts at the nuts and bolts of the virus.
Science saved us in the short term, now it is time to get off the scientists backs long enough to let the experts get at the scientific process of solving the complete puzzle. We are an impatient species so we tend to invent simple answers to hard questions by fabricating solutions out of thin air and thick bullshit. |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:20 AM
Chainfire (9,526 posts)
7. From past experience, we know that flu type illness don't do well in the hot months.
That is why we call it the "seasonal flu" We may be seeing the same thing with the dropping numbers of cases during the dog days of Summer. I don't know, I am a plumber, not a virologist, but it seems consistent with our current thinking. Then again, it may be explained by some entirely different phenomenon. Perhaps it is just going away, in the words of our idiot evil magician, "just like magic." Lets just protect our selves and wait and see.
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