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Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:39 PM

Just watched a video about Katherine Gun... the Iraq war whistleblower...

... and got really depressed. She leaked info that made it clear the Iraq war was illegal. And the case against her was dismissed.

Why am I depressed then?
Because NONE of the goddam war criminals involved in that clusterfuck was ever indicted, tried, and convicted, that's why.

Now I'm REALLY depressed. If those war criminals got away with it, what are chances that the entire trump crime family will get away with their crimes?

This country just simply put Bush - and everything he did - behind us. What keeps that from happening with trump? "For the sake of the country, we just have to move on and not dwell in the past."

Shit!!!

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Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:33 PM

1. I don't think that's quite right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Gun

Her leak showed that the US and UK were spying on friendly countries, to give them leverage in UN votes on Iraq. But her defence wisely based their case on saying the war was illegal (which would justify her leak as a way to stop an illegal act), and therefore demanded the release of internal discussions about the legality of the invasion. And rather than produce these, the prosecution dropped the case.

So the case didn't show one way or the other whether the legal advice at the time said the invasion was illegal, but it would clearly have been embarrassing for the government if it got out. But that doesn't mean that it would have got them convicted of anything if it were known, or used in court.

Yeah, there is a very good likelihood that the Trumps will never be convicted of a crime. They may have to pay taxes they should have paid before, get barred from running charities or being directors of companies, but getting a criminal conviction, which needs "beyond all reasonable doubt" from a jury likely to include a Trump supporter or two, is very unlikely. Don't pin yourt hopes for justice on it.

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Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:37 PM

2. They all should have faced the consequences of their crimes

That is why the Slobfather and ReTHUGs pushed and continue to push the envelope. Bush, Cheney and the rest of them should be in the Hague as I type

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