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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:09 PM Sep 2021

President Biden leaning hard on Manchin and Sinema at this very moment!

SUMMER CONCEPCION
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2:46 p.m.
Manchin Is Also At The White House
It’s not just Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) back at the White House — fellow centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) is there too, White House press secretary Jen Psaki and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told reporters in separate press conferences.


SUMMER CONCEPCION
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2:22 p.m.
Sinema Is Heading Back To The White House
After meeting with President Biden earlier today, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) is reportedly boomeranging back to the White House, according to Politico and Fox News.

Sinema has not provided any details thus far on her conversations with the President amid her gripes about the $3.5 trillion price tag for reconciliation.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/live-blog/dems-face-divorcing-3-5-trillion-reconciliation-plan-from-bipartisan-bill?entry=1388887

Give them hell, Joe!



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President Biden leaning hard on Manchin and Sinema at this very moment! (Original Post) bluewater Sep 2021 OP
Joe seems like the type of person gay texan Sep 2021 #1
bUT Why isn'T bIdEN DOiNg mORe?! Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #2
Personally I haven't heard anybody say that here ColinC Sep 2021 #3
I see a lot of statements like this (mostly) on social media Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #4
A lot of social media folks are paid trolls. I imagine his base is actually quite satisfied with ColinC Sep 2021 #6
Social media is a cesspool. I hate when MSM takes a few tweets from paid shills and trolls Celerity Sep 2021 #10
I for one have not one scintilla of complaint towards Biden msfiddlestix Sep 2021 #19
yeah, and that bluewater dude has been steadfast in supporting Biden bluewater Sep 2021 #5
I wasn't trying to attack or criticize OP Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #12
Good, because bluewater just might be the most beloved poster here on DU. bluewater Sep 2021 #14
What can he do? BradAllison Sep 2021 #8
I know Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #13
People are frustrated and I get that BradAllison Sep 2021 #17
Two brats think they are in charge now. LenaBaby61 Sep 2021 #16
I'm not holding my breath for these two DINOs to change any of their ridiculous stances kysrsoze Sep 2021 #7
So you're saying they have a price. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #9
I suppose that's true kysrsoze Sep 2021 #20
THEY AGREED TO THAT PRICE TAG in negotiations weeks ago. NOW they want to gripe? CousinIT Sep 2021 #11
I suspect they didn't qazplm135 Sep 2021 #18
Simple fact: If we don't pass these two bills we lose the House and Senate in 22... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #15
One or both could then join the "Concerned Caucus" and make Mitch the Majority Leader. Marcuse Sep 2021 #21

gay texan

(2,405 posts)
1. Joe seems like the type of person
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:12 PM
Sep 2021

That when hes had enough of you shit, hes HAD enough of your shit.....

ColinC

(8,232 posts)
3. Personally I haven't heard anybody say that here
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:17 PM
Sep 2021

He has been absolutely incredible in fighting for his agenda -which is fighting for the working class and the disadvantaged.

Mad_Machine76

(24,355 posts)
4. I see a lot of statements like this (mostly) on social media
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:20 PM
Sep 2021

It's more restrained here. They just bug the heck out of me. I don't subscribe to it personally.

ColinC

(8,232 posts)
6. A lot of social media folks are paid trolls. I imagine his base is actually quite satisfied with
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:26 PM
Sep 2021

his performance.

Celerity

(42,668 posts)
10. Social media is a cesspool. I hate when MSM takes a few tweets from paid shills and trolls
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:39 PM
Sep 2021

and amplifies them to create a false sense of extreme discord or conflict (99% of the time it is for Dems, almost never the MAGAts).

msfiddlestix

(7,265 posts)
19. I for one have not one scintilla of complaint towards Biden
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:50 PM
Sep 2021

Media makes me absolutely sick. The evening of the 2020 elections I vowed to never ever tune into any "cable" news. (I actually don't have cable, I use Roku) ever again. I didn't until Jan 6th. when a neighbor gave me a heads up about what was happening.

I might have a few critical questions regarding the Justice dept. But not Biden.

I share Biden's concerns regarding Manchin and Sinema.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
5. yeah, and that bluewater dude has been steadfast in supporting Biden
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:22 PM
Sep 2021

and his "Build Back Better" agenda.

More people should be like bluewater, he's quite the guy, pragmatic, empathetic, and unwavering in his efforts to see the Biden Presidency, the Democratic Party, and our nation succeed.



But in all seriousness, being a Progressive, Joe Biden was not my first choice in the democratic Primaries, but once he secured the nomination and than was elected President, I have made a concerted effort to back him and his agenda to the hilt.

While President Biden's proposed 3.5T "Build Back Better" plan might not have everything in it I would like to see, I think it behooves us all as Democrats to back his agenda and get him the programs he has prioritized. Honestly, I think the overwhelming majority of Progressives, especially here on DU, have made the same commitment to support the President, so its galling when a handful of self-declared "moderate" Democrats obstruct and delay his agenda.



Mad_Machine76

(24,355 posts)
12. I wasn't trying to attack or criticize OP
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:42 PM
Sep 2021

Just ranting at people whom don't think that Biden is doing anything or even complicit. I listen to the Gaslit Nation podcast and that seems to be the take of the hosts most of the time.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
16. Two brats think they are in charge now.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:47 PM
Sep 2021

Unfortunately, they are. And she like the man from WV are rasing big monies in the OPEN now, because they don't give one fvuck about this country, nor about it's people..

Sinema just finished a fund-raiser for herself. I don't fool around with The Hill much, but ...


Sinema to hold fundraiser with groups opposed to social spending package.
BY MYCHAEL SCHNELL - 09/27/21 04:52 PM EDT

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) is reportedly scheduled to hold a fundraiser this week with business groups opposed to the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation package being crafted by her party.

Sinema has emerged as a critical voice in the Senate on the legislation and opposes a package with a top line of $3.5 trillion, saying it must be smaller. Progressives have insisted $3.5 trillion should be the floor for the bill.

Sinema and progressives also have various policy differences on the details of the bill, a key part of President Biden's agenda that is also tied to a separate infrastructure measure already approved by the Senate.

The New York Times obtained a copy of the invitation for Sinema’s fundraiser — flanked with the senator’s campaign logo — that is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.

The invitation says the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors and the grocers’ PAC, in addition to lobbyists representing roofers and electrical contractors and a small-business group called the S-Corp political action committee, have been invited to the fundraiser, which is set to take place at an undisclosed location.

Attendees, according to the Times, will likely donate between $1,000 and $5,800, payable to Sinema for Arizona.

Internal battles, however, are brewing within the Democratic Party as lawmakers argue over the massive reconciliation bill's price tag and how to pay for it.

Sinema and fellow centrist Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.) have been at odds with progressives over the size of the reconciliation package. Sinema has also reportedly told her Senate Democratic colleagues in private that she is opposed to the corporate and individual tax rate increases that lawmakers on tax-writing committees in both the House and Senate are looking to implement to pay for the bill's provisions on climate change, health care and other issues.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/574153-sinema-to-raise-funds-from-groups-representing-organizations-opposed-to-35t

kysrsoze

(6,010 posts)
7. I'm not holding my breath for these two DINOs to change any of their ridiculous stances
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:29 PM
Sep 2021

I'm really hoping, but not expecting. They're both bought and paid for.

CousinIT

(9,151 posts)
11. THEY AGREED TO THAT PRICE TAG in negotiations weeks ago. NOW they want to gripe?
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:39 PM
Sep 2021

THIS IS JUST DAMN SABOTAGE -- and what's behind it is corporate whining and money tossing: big coal/oil, big pharma, US chamber - all of them MASSIVELY lobbying & bribing these "Democrats" to stall, obstruct, or otherwise stop Build Back Better from becoming law. So they can protect their massive tax-free profits at OUR EXPENSE and the expense of the planet we all depend on for Life.

I hope Joe is GIVING THEM ABSOLUTE HELL over this -- though I know that's not really so much his nature.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
18. I suspect they didn't
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:50 PM
Sep 2021

I think they were coy about it, and our leadership should have gotten more of a firm commitment from them before going forward.

I still blame them, but I think they didn't come out and say "we are good with 3.5 trillion."

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
15. Simple fact: If we don't pass these two bills we lose the House and Senate in 22...
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:44 PM
Sep 2021

I think it really boils down to that.

As for Manchin and Sinema, I would think that failure to support these bills will mean NO future visits to the White House and no support from the national party for their re-elections.

Time to play hardball.

Marcuse

(7,399 posts)
21. One or both could then join the "Concerned Caucus" and make Mitch the Majority Leader.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 06:24 PM
Sep 2021

That’s always been their leverage.

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