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Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 03:19 AM Oct 2021

Ever wonder if Zuckerberg is a secret Trumpy?

We keep hearing over and over how Facebook is a major source of misinformation and promotion of Trump lies.
Could Zuckerberg be trying to keep Trump support going in spite of the restrictions that are supposed to suppress it?

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Ever wonder if Zuckerberg is a secret Trumpy? (Original Post) Kablooie Oct 2021 OP
I have, but it's hard to rationalize DFW Oct 2021 #1
Money grubbing idiot loves money grubbing idiot is not news RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2021 #37
No, I never wonder that. He's a nerd who made it big and lives in a bubble of privilege. SharonClark Oct 2021 #2
I agree LeftInTX Oct 2021 #6
Baloney. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #8
I don't get directed to false and malicious materia. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #10
"It's how all of the Democratic Party does it." milestogo Oct 2021 #19
Yup. There's no way to be a Democrat if you don't have Facebook AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #29
We also use email, twitter and mobilize and don't use one medium. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #31
Are you unaware of the criticisms of Facebook? milestogo Oct 2021 #41
You are welcome to complain to higher ups: LeftInTX Oct 2021 #42
We also use email, twitter and mobilize for the same events. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #33
Because you're not looking.... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #45
Never been on FB luv2fly Oct 2021 #12
I don't think it's a secret. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #3
I don't think so radical noodle Oct 2021 #4
If he was, he'd be cutting out ANTI Trump and PRO vax content brooklynite Oct 2021 #5
Do you ever spend time on Facebook? LeftInTX Oct 2021 #7
I agree. I was a member of neighborhood crime watch until the organizers went to MeWe. dameatball Oct 2021 #18
Join the mutual paranoia that is Next Door, instead! Sympthsical Oct 2021 #30
I will have to revisit that. I still have an old account from a different state. dameatball Oct 2021 #32
If you're in a red area, like me expect to see doxxing and all sorts of crap LeftInTX Oct 2021 #36
LOL...I know LeftInTX Oct 2021 #35
There's brown people walking by my house!!!! AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #40
No. I think Zuck is an open antagoniser canetoad Oct 2021 #9
I think Zuckerberg wants to continue expansion of his business with as little regulation as possible blogslug Oct 2021 #11
Yes, not a MAGA type but the usual Big Business anti regulation type JI7 Oct 2021 #13
Zuckerberg puts money high above morals and ethics. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #14
Exactly. Like Trump, all his relationships are transactional. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #21
Whether he is or not, the effect is the same. He did everything he could to help get TFG elected. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #15
I think he, like most billionaires, is simply a sociopath unblock Oct 2021 #16
He could well be, but "most billionaires" rode giant updrafts from the Hortensis Oct 2021 #20
Who got the giant tax cut? Not us commoners. Vinca Oct 2021 #17
CBS Sunday morning just did a piece on FB and showed very old footage from prior interview hlthe2b Oct 2021 #22
Pretty sure he'll just follow whoever promises to make him money. Oneironaut Oct 2021 #23
Secret? CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #24
Zuckerberg's moral compass is MONEY. dalton99a Oct 2021 #25
Zuckerberg is in it for himself. Trump raised billions for FaceBook. yardwork Oct 2021 #26
Well, most wealthy people lean repub... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #27
Never on FB. It seems to bring out the worst in people. LakeArenal Oct 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author fescuerescue Oct 2021 #34
Zuckerberg is all for Zuckerberg. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2021 #38
He reminds me of my rich cousin Tree Lady Oct 2021 #39
No. His donations say moderate to liberal. Blue_true Oct 2021 #43
Secret? we can do it Oct 2021 #44

DFW

(54,291 posts)
1. I have, but it's hard to rationalize
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 03:26 AM
Oct 2021

To be a Trumpanzee, you have be stupid or evil or both. Zuckerberg just strikes me as a brainy nerd who lucked out, but maybe he’s just skillful at concealing his true motives, whatever they might be?

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,664 posts)
37. Money grubbing idiot loves money grubbing idiot is not news
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:42 PM
Oct 2021

Zuckerberg does think he is smarter then Trump and that is a stretch.

I wish them both massive amounts of Karma cause then have both earned it

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
2. No, I never wonder that. He's a nerd who made it big and lives in a bubble of privilege.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 03:36 AM
Oct 2021

I would be surprised if he cares enough to vote.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
8. Baloney.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 04:12 AM
Oct 2021

I still have a Facebook account, but will never log in again. I'm relatively certain the vast majority of those critical of Zuckerberg's cash cow are like myself.

It doesn't take a genius to see how Facebook directs people to like minded material, even if that material is false and malicious.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
10. I don't get directed to false and malicious materia.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 04:47 AM
Oct 2021

I get directed to stupid ads and stupid memes, like, "What doesn't belong on hamburgers?"

I'm active with the Democratic Party on Facebook. We plan most of our activities on Facebook. It's how all of the Democratic Party does it.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
19. "It's how all of the Democratic Party does it."
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:46 AM
Oct 2021

And that is not a good thing.

Lots of people don't have Facebook accounts and don't want them.

If I come across an organization that doesn't give me a choice for signing up other than Facebook, I don't sign up.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
29. Yup. There's no way to be a Democrat if you don't have Facebook
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:25 PM
Oct 2021

I was kind of shocked when I received that edict myself.
/s

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
31. We also use email, twitter and mobilize and don't use one medium.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:07 PM
Oct 2021

Sign up on FB and you get reminders.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
33. We also use email, twitter and mobilize for the same events.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:19 PM
Oct 2021

FB tends to get instant participation. On FB all you have to do is click "going" and you get reminders and it's in your event list. Mobilize sends text and email reminders.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
45. Because you're not looking....
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:26 PM
Oct 2021

at the same things the lunatics are looking at.

If you don't see it, it doesn't exist?

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
12. Never been on FB
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 06:13 AM
Oct 2021

Never will, and I am fully capable of knowing it is a cesspool that helps undermine logic and promotes hate.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
4. I don't think so
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 03:40 AM
Oct 2021

if charitable donations are a clue to one's political or ideological beliefs. I didn't know (or at least I didn't remember) that he signed The Giving Pledge.

https://borgenproject.org/mark-zuckerbergs-charitable-donations/

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
7. Do you ever spend time on Facebook?
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 04:06 AM
Oct 2021

Do you go on Facebook to check? How do you know this?

Join MeWe instead.....That's where everyone went when they were mad at FB. However, it turned out to be a RW cesspool....

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
30. Join the mutual paranoia that is Next Door, instead!
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:49 PM
Oct 2021

It was kind of intended as a Neighborhood Watch thing. Now it's a showcase letting me know how many of my neighbors are lunatics.

It is very good at Neighborhood Watching, though. Too good. As in, "Anyone looking vaguely out of place will be posted with extensive Ring footage."

dameatball

(7,394 posts)
32. I will have to revisit that. I still have an old account from a different state.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:15 PM
Oct 2021

It never seemed to have much on it. I will update to my new address and see what's up around here.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
36. If you're in a red area, like me expect to see doxxing and all sorts of crap
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

At least when it comes to crime watch Me We is more private, but sometimes that can be a bad thing, because the crime watchers can get away with saying more racist s____, but on Nextdoor you have also have the stray rescue people who keep it a bit more balanced.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
35. LOL...I know
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:33 PM
Oct 2021

I head over there when I wanna sell or buy something or something benign, but it's full of RW trolls.

They have gotten better about "black people in the neighborhood" after George Floyd. But, it's still fair game. And they're constant doxxing license plates. It's pretty much a cesspool.

I try to find something good in the mess, but it's hard and it's certainly not worth the time. A few months ago there was actually a civil discussion about what was gonna be at a former Sonic Drive-In. Everyone's hoping it's gonna be an upgrade like Panera. I took the position that Sonic went out of business because no one could get in and out of the location easily due to the way traffic moved at the spot. I think it's gonna be another pawn shop, tire shop, car lot (we are getting small used car lots on that road ) or some other downgrade.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
40. There's brown people walking by my house!!!!
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

I call White Suburban Paranoia. Lately mine has been obsessed with the homeless. Daily posts about the dopers by the QT - they’re all smoking fentanyl!!!! And one about them opening fire hydrants and contributing to the spread of West Nile Virus.
There was even a post about not bringing them food because it just encourages them to stay. They’re not feral cats, people!!!

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
9. No. I think Zuck is an open antagoniser
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 04:34 AM
Oct 2021

Who was once a tragic incel. Then he made money.

He want to give every incel, psycho, murderer an equal say. Because of course....

blogslug

(37,982 posts)
11. I think Zuckerberg wants to continue expansion of his business with as little regulation as possible
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 06:10 AM
Oct 2021

By whatever means necessary.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
21. Exactly. Like Trump, all his relationships are transactional.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

His moral code is if it's good for him, it's right. If it's bad for him, it's wrong.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
16. I think he, like most billionaires, is simply a sociopath
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:09 AM
Oct 2021

I think it's no coincidence, you almost have to be sociopathic to steer that much money into your own pockets in the first place. Non-sociopaths have a harder time stomping on others or not sharing with others, and so wind up with less money.

That logic doesn't apply to those who inherited great wealth, but then there may be an inherited nature and/or nurture component to sociopathy.


So I don't think zuck has any particular loyalty to Donnie, but he did see financial benefit in helping him, so that's what he did.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. He could well be, but "most billionaires" rode giant updrafts from the
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 09:22 AM
Oct 2021

enormous technology-driven explosions of wealth over the past 50 years. A lot of them weren't even primarily motivated, or in some cases at all, by greed for great wealth.

Although we use terms like "sociopath" and "psychopath," psychologists use other terminology, like "antisocial" as in antisocial personality disorder. tRump's in that catchbag.

hlthe2b

(102,120 posts)
22. CBS Sunday morning just did a piece on FB and showed very old footage from prior interview
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:23 AM
Oct 2021

My Gawd was he a naive' nerdy figure. I determined early on that I had issues with FB and thus have never registered an account, but I guess I was oblivious to HIM back then. He had that effect that for all the world made one wonder how he could tie his own shoes.

So, maybe he is just a clueless nerd who now actually NEEDS the common sense and some defined emotional intellect that he clearly lacks. Or, maybe he really is just a greedy sociopath--like Trump. I don't know. I do know that FB is obscenely harmful to a wide swath of the world at large and should never have been allowed to escape the provisions of FCC regulators.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
23. Pretty sure he'll just follow whoever promises to make him money.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:28 AM
Oct 2021

He’d follow Adolph Hitler reincarnated if he could make an extra penny.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
25. Zuckerberg's moral compass is MONEY.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:31 AM
Oct 2021

He doesn't give a shit about America or Americans or democracy or decency or truth

They mean nothing to him.



yardwork

(61,538 posts)
26. Zuckerberg is in it for himself. Trump raised billions for FaceBook.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:32 AM
Oct 2021

Mark Zuckerberg is a sociopath. Believe it.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
27. Well, most wealthy people lean repub...
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:38 AM
Oct 2021

because they think that party will help them protect their wealth. By and large they are right in that belief, and trump is repub enough to work for them. Many people don't vote on 'character' if that character sounds like it threatens their bottom line. Trump is an asshole, but he doesn't threaten wealthy people and their money.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Tommy Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
38. Zuckerberg is all for Zuckerberg.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:46 PM
Oct 2021

And whatever brings Zuckerberg money.

He’s an apolitical, amoral animal who is happy to play whatever side benefits him.

Which is why he frequently gets the ire of liberals and conservatives alike.

He’s basically Littlefinger from Game of Thrones.

Tree Lady

(11,425 posts)
39. He reminds me of my rich cousin
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:49 PM
Oct 2021

Who is a republican for that reason. I actually understood even though I don't agree why rich people are republicans, they want to keep as much of their money as they can.

My cousin is ok on social issues.

They are the type that would pinch their noses and vote for Trump, don't like him but he gets them what they want, just like the right wing Christians, they know he is as far from godly as possible but gets them the votes against abortion they want.

Mark is like that, when I saw the pics of him smiling with Trump and spending time alone with him, I knew he was finding a way to help him out as much as he could get away with.

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