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Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:16 PM Oct 2021

Is it time to just say fuck it and make our own vote rules in the Senate?

By simple majority, vote to change rules and get shit done.

Oh? There's a process? Really?

Magnanimous Mitch will squeal. Well fuck him.

Let them challenge what we do, not stop us from doing it.

I know, I know. Rules. We're the party that follows the rules.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Fuck it.

Just do it.

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Is it time to just say fuck it and make our own vote rules in the Senate? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 OP
Have you met Joe Manchin? tritsofme Oct 2021 #1
Was about to say... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #2
Did you see the image I posted? Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 #7
Oh, does that image magically change reality somehow? Pretty cool. tritsofme Oct 2021 #8
Then we stick with the excuses, I guess Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 #14
I don't make excuses for living in the reality based community. tritsofme Oct 2021 #17
Sorry, that's your limited view of what's reality. The rest of reality is Stinky The Clown Oct 2021 #22
I think the problem is more Manchin and Synema or however you spell it MiniMe Oct 2021 #3
S'enema C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #5
Lol MiniMe Oct 2021 #10
SineManchin lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #11
Mitch NEVER let rules get in his way. blm Oct 2021 #4
Strip him from all his committee's ... MiHale Oct 2021 #6
And then Mitch can give them all back the next day, while simultaneously becoming majority leader. tritsofme Oct 2021 #12
Assuming Schumer grows a spine and it results in a challenge, what actually can happen? The in2herbs Oct 2021 #9
I don't think they can get 50 votes for it MiniMe Oct 2021 #13
Is Schumer does his vote count for Ds and Manchin and Sinema are the only Ds holding it up I say in2herbs Oct 2021 #16
Why do you think either would let Schumer take away their committee seats? tritsofme Oct 2021 #18
Frankly, I don't think Schumer has enough courage and follow-thru to take away their in2herbs Oct 2021 #19
That wasn't my question, Machin and Sinema have no reason to accept such punishment tritsofme Oct 2021 #21
Yes - as soon as we find a suitable combination of bribes and Kompromat for lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #15
That would have to be more in bribes and Kompromat Sogo Oct 2021 #20

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
17. I don't make excuses for living in the reality based community.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:59 PM
Oct 2021

Have fun chasing delusions, if that’s your thing.

Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
22. Sorry, that's your limited view of what's reality. The rest of reality is
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:26 PM
Oct 2021

lockstep GQP control of their caucus. Their leader controls everything. Through the last few years no one in the Senate broke ranks with leadership.

They do it.

I guarantee some of their members feel like their choking down a shit sandwich. But they keep quiet and then they "retire".

They don't make EXCUSES.

SineManchin is an EXCUSE.

But yeah. You're right.

Delusions.

By they way, not a kind thing to say to someone, but we'll leave that for now.

MiniMe

(21,676 posts)
3. I think the problem is more Manchin and Synema or however you spell it
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:19 PM
Oct 2021

We need them to get 50 votes. So while it sounds good, it isn't as easy as it sounds

MiHale

(9,593 posts)
6. Strip him from all his committee's ...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:28 PM
Oct 2021

Here the are:

Energy and Natural Resources

Senate Appropriations Committee

Armed Services Committee

ranking member of the Cybersecurity Subcommittee

Committee on Veterans’ Affairs

https://www.manchin.senate.gov/about/committee-assignments

Been done with others so there is precedent.

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
12. And then Mitch can give them all back the next day, while simultaneously becoming majority leader.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021

Stellar plan you have there!

in2herbs

(2,942 posts)
9. Assuming Schumer grows a spine and it results in a challenge, what actually can happen? The
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:33 PM
Oct 2021

mandate for US paying our bills is in the Constitution, the made-up debt ceiling is not. What would any legal challenge be based upon?

in2herbs

(2,942 posts)
16. Is Schumer does his vote count for Ds and Manchin and Sinema are the only Ds holding it up I say
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:39 PM
Oct 2021

vote and let it be known that the Rs and Manchin and Sinema were the only Ds not in favor of raising the debt ceiling and let them suffer the consequences, including a loss of their committee seats.

in2herbs

(2,942 posts)
19. Frankly, I don't think Schumer has enough courage and follow-thru to take away their
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 03:07 PM
Oct 2021

committee seats but M and S need to be punished if they block raising the debt ceiling and how can that be done other than taking away their committee seats?

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
21. That wasn't my question, Machin and Sinema have no reason to accept such punishment
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 03:19 PM
Oct 2021

in the first place.

Either could caucus with the Republicans and have their committees and chairs restored within a day. It’s not a realistic threat.

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