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Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:20 AM Oct 2021

To watchers of NBC nightly news with Lester Holt . . . . .

. . . . . Who would you prefer, Lester Holt or Brian Williams?

My personal opinion is Williams was demoted based on not much because he leans left. Holt is a long time roadie and right leaner who became the easy choice to get the news subtly, slightly shaved right.

He seems to relish bad news for Democrats. Williams, on his 11th Hour show on MSNBC seems to favor Democrats and putting down GQPeers.

Again, just my personal opinion.

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summer_in_TX

(2,680 posts)
1. Williams may just be playing the role.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:23 AM
Oct 2021

After all, MSNBC leans left and he's surrounded. I think he usually seems awkward doing anything opinionated, although it seems to be coming easier nowadays.

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. To me his opinions always seem genuine
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 03:16 AM
Oct 2021

He’s smart and has a sense of humor... I suspect he genuinely leans left.

PatSeg

(46,792 posts)
8. Oh yes, I agree
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:21 AM
Oct 2021

I've been watching him almost every night and he has become my favorite news host. His opinions do definitely seem to be genuine and his delivery is practically flawless. I like him better as an MSNBC news host than as the NBC news anchor, so in a sense, I'm rather glad he isn't on the Nightly News anymore.

summer_in_TX

(2,680 posts)
17. Thanks for the info.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:45 AM
Oct 2021

I'm usually watching something else and miss most of his show so I haven't watched him much. I'm glad to hear he's worth watching.

PatSeg

(46,792 posts)
20. The only thing that would make it better
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:44 AM
Oct 2021

is if he was moved to an earlier timeslot. I'm on the east coast and sometimes it is hard to stay awake for the entire show.

PatSeg

(46,792 posts)
9. He slips those witticisms in so effortlessly
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:24 AM
Oct 2021

that I sometimes have to rewind to catch what he said. He can do it without cracking a smile.

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. That's the very best part!
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:02 PM
Oct 2021

He doesn’t laugh at his own jokes. He says them like they’re just part of the news... I love it!

PatSeg

(46,792 posts)
19. Yes!
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:41 AM
Oct 2021

You described it perfectly. I find myself anticipating them. I noticed with his guests, there is a slight delay before they smile or laugh, as it takes a second to realize Brian effortlessly slipped a witticism into his dialogue. They seem to really enjoy being on his show. He always manages to say something refreshingly unexpected.

Ford_Prefect

(7,817 posts)
3. NBC are no doubt under pressure to "balance" their coverage...
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 03:15 AM
Oct 2021

It's fairly obvious why and for whom. Ownership does have certain privileges it seems.

LisaM

(27,759 posts)
4. I like Brian Williams
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 03:16 AM
Oct 2021

Based on the stories he chose to cover when he was the lead.anchor on NBC, I always thought he tilted slightly left.

In the role he has now, he has the space to expand that a little bit. And, he has some of the best panels, often carefully chosen to balance each other, he doesn't ask them particularly leading questions, and most importantly, he lets them talk without interrupting them.

Submariner

(12,485 posts)
7. Holt switched from republican to independent a year or two ago
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:14 AM
Oct 2021

like the Bush/Cheney repubs did who were embarrassed, and became independents after Bush lost both revenge wars.

Holt is that part of the electorate I will never understand. The Black republican who votes for the people and institutions that want to crush his culture, and kill his people without prejudice. The news mentioned there are about 1.5 million of them out of our countries pop. of 330M. I cannot comprehend the thought processes of people like Holt.

PatSeg

(46,792 posts)
10. I prefer Brian Williams,
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:29 AM
Oct 2021

but I really would prefer that he stay at MSNBC. The Nightly News is a different format and his MSNBC show seems to bring out the best in him.

misanthrope

(7,405 posts)
18. That would have ruined the careers of other journalists
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 02:05 AM
Oct 2021

Williams is fortunate to still be working for the same employer.

UTUSN

(70,496 posts)
16. While WILLIAMS was hosting, I called him The Wedding Cake Guy
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

because of his mannikin clothes & grooming and thought he pushed his undeniable intelligence to the brink of pretentiousness and preciousness. Also, he was always getting himself on the late night shows and there were news items saying that that's what he really wanted to do.

After his fracas, with the long suspension and the apparent demotion to cable, he has seemed to want it more, show his intelligence without flaunting it, and focus on his news/commentary without showboating at the late night shows.

I thought and think of HOLT as a genial, journeyman reader, and not up to the anchor job although being a news READER as the Brits call them is all it takes. I have never watched him longer than a clip or so over years and didn't know/detect wingnuttiness, but not watching made it irrelevant to me.






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