Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:13 AM

MSNBC Reporting

The Mueller report could be released.
Is this the watered down version?

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10 replies	Author	Time	Post
MSNBC Reporting (Original post)	samplegirl	Dec 2021	OP
I can't imagine why is hasn't been already.	denbot	Dec 2021	#1
Bill Barr	Cracklin Charlie	Dec 2021	#2
Barr's been gone a year !	OnDoutside	Dec 2021	#4
In what watered-down version ?	left-of-center2012	Dec 2021	#3
For some stupid reason I don't think it will be released .	BlueJac	Dec 2021	#5
Didn't hear MSNBC, but original redacted and less-redacted versions are on line,	Hortensis	Dec 2021	#6
The unreleased report	samplegirl	Dec 2021	#7
:) I don't know enough yet to weigh in on that.	Hortensis	Dec 2021	#8
+1. there's a certain amount of nuance	stopdiggin	Dec 2021	#9
'Alternative' Mueller Report	crickets	Dec 2021	#10

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:21 AM

denbot (9,727 posts)

1. I can't imagine why is hasn't been already.

There are two versions, one classified and another that was meant to be publicly available.

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Response to denbot (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:28 AM

Cracklin Charlie (11,462 posts)

2. Bill Barr

That’s why it wasn’t.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 10:17 AM

OnDoutside (18,941 posts)

4. Barr's been gone a year !

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:38 AM

left-of-center2012 (34,150 posts)

3. In what watered-down version ?

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 10:26 AM

BlueJac (7,542 posts)

5. For some stupid reason I don't think it will be released .

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

Hortensis (51,713 posts)

6. Didn't hear MSNBC, but original redacted and less-redacted versions are on line,

so those wouldn't be news. Lawfare has and discusses the less redacted version, both volumes, here.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-report

Congress and private groups have been pushing to obtain more of the unreleased report, and this may be about additional success with that.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

samplegirl (9,371 posts)

7. The unreleased report

should of been out by now. People need truth!

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Response to samplegirl (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

Hortensis (51,713 posts)

8. :) I don't know enough yet to weigh in on that.

Of course, government of, by and for the people absolutely requires the people have access to the truth. But "first do no harm" applies to all with power, and the "out of (self) control" people have been doing a great deal of arrogant and mindless harm, with no return to even normal levels of responsibility and decency in sight.

Frankly, I wouldn't trust "we the people" to keep a puppy fed these days. We did at least manage to elect the Biden administration and give congressional Democrats bare majorities, and I'm enormously grateful for and encouraged by that.

Also eager to see the "alternate Mueller Report" that's been found (!) and may be released.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

stopdiggin (6,705 posts)

9. +1. there's a certain amount of nuance

and common sense involved in the "people deserve to know" rubric. Just the way it works - and should continue as such. A percentage of people these days (even some of our representatives!) - have about as much sense as a peahen. In short - dangerous nincompoops. Certainly don't deserve a place around anything dangerous or combustible.

Which is not to say that I'm also in favor of the government over classifying, blacking out reams of copy, and 'whitewashing' everything in sight - particularly in an effort as coverup. But there needs to be some median between the two extremes.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Sun Dec 5, 2021, 02:43 PM

crickets (20,739 posts)

10. 'Alternative' Mueller Report

https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-may-release-alternative-version-mueller-report-court-filing-2021-12

The Manhattan US attorney's office notified District Judge Katherine Polk Failla on Thursday that the department has "located and begun processing" the document, which is sometimes referred to as the "Alternative Mueller Report." Politico first reported the news.

Andrew Weissmann, a longtime former federal prosecutor who served as one of special counsel Robert Mueller's top deputies during the FBI's Russia investigation, revealed the existence of the report in his book, "Where the Law Ends: Inside the Mueller Investigation."

Weissmann expressed deep dissatisfaction with the final report that was released to the public in April 2019 and accused Mueller of having let down the public. [snip]

Weissmann wrote in his book that "for posterity," he had all the members of Mueller's team "write up an internal report memorializing everything we found, our conclusions, and the limitations on the investigation, and provided it to the other team leaders as well as had it maintained in our files."

Of course, the timing of this seems conveniently tied to the publication of his book.

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