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Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:44 AM

Did Trump ever commit to a goal with a significant chance of objective failure?

I'm not even concerned with whether the goal was achieved or not. Were there many committals which met this criterion? This is a good question to ask your conservative friend or family member.

Trump did commit to a free border wall, and this campaign promise objectively failed. I'll grant that one. He learned from this mistake and rarely repeated it. He did commit to balancing the budget, but the timeframes were quickly (and conveniently) pushed out well past his second term once in office.

When it came to infrastructure, there was an acceptance by Trump that this was a national priority. However, all we got was "infrastructure week". This amounted to little more than discussions and arm waving with no measurable milestones. Contrast this with Biden's infrastructure plan. This was significant legislation subjected to a final yea or nay vote (unlike Trump's executive actions).

Trump did not enter anything resembling a formal nuclear arms agreement with Kim Jong-un. He merely asserted that they "fell in love".

When it came to health care, we got a promise from Trump that his "great health plan" would be revealed during his second term. Biden, on the other hand, has included significant improvements to health care in his first-term BBB plan. This has bipartisan opposition and is also subject to a final yea or nay vote.

Trump never committed to ending the pandemic. This was thrust upon him, and his response was largely to downplay the threat. He tried to shorten the yardstick used to measure success by taking anti-science positions. Cases are increasing because of the increase in testing, period. Biden, on the other hand, has never tried to hide from the science. The cases are the cases, the deaths are the deaths.

Anthropomorphic climate change is not a reality of physics in the MAGA-verse. In Biden's real world, the US has rejoined the Paris accord which has quantifiable emissions targets.

Are you seeing a pattern here? In the absence of measurable milestones, a politician can merely assert that they are doing a great job on your behalf. I say demand better.

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Reply Did Trump ever commit to a goal with a significant chance of objective failure? (Original post)
Shermann Jan 2022 OP
MyOwnPeace Jan 2022 #1
krispos42 Jan 2022 #2
Shermann Jan 2022 #12
Nevilledog Jan 2022 #3
left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 #4
Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #5
Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #6
chowder66 Jan 2022 #7
onenote Jan 2022 #8
leftstreet Jan 2022 #9
malaise Jan 2022 #10
Shermann Jan 2022 #13
malaise Jan 2022 #14
malaise Jan 2022 #15
malaise Jan 2022 #11
GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #16

Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:49 AM

1. Riding down the escalator, he committed to being

the President of the United States of America.

At that - he was an horrific FAILURE!!!!


And YES, he needs to be committed!

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:49 AM

2. His first two marriages?



I guess you could say his SCOTUS appointments, although those are not scheduled but dependent on outside factors. And McConnell's thievery.

His judicial appointments went through fairly quickly, but again that depends on McConnell.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:05 PM

12. Yes, sadly he succeeded at packing the courts.

Last edited Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Of course, that was something of a political layup with McConnell on his team.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:51 AM

3. Shoving himself into that tux to dine with the Queen was doomed from the start.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:03 PM

4. Healthcare

He kept repeating that it was coming in 2 weeks.

Oh, that's not what you meant?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:12 PM

5. And... Infrastructure week!

How many of those did he have

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:35 PM

6. Yeah, when he tried to overthrow the government

a year ago.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:24 PM

7. President-elect Trump vows to bring nation 'together as never before'

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:45 PM

8. Repealing Obamacare. But he failed.

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Response to onenote (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:52 PM

9. But it sure taught establishment GOP a lesson

They'd been drawing dollars campaigning on dumping Obamacare, but as soon as Trump actually tried it, their own base starts pouring into town halls and saying oh hell no!

LOL They won't be trying that again

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:57 PM

10. The Slobfather only commits to the following question

How can I enrich myself with this venture/con/scam/whateveerthefuckever

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Response to malaise (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:34 PM

13. Well he did set the goal of getting reelected

However, he rejected the objective standard by which Americans traditionally choose the winner of presidential elections: The US Constitution.

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Response to Shermann (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:46 PM

14. He is a raving lunatic - he believed he was the chosen one

the next King Donald fo Scotland. Still I am way more disturbed by those who facilitated his rise to power. He still thinks he's president but in the end it's about greed and power. He appears to be a natural born sociopath.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:48 PM

16. Has he ever committed to a goal, PERIOD?

I doubt it. He's all talk, little to no action He makes lots of promises, but it never goes beyond that.

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