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The silence surrounding Meadows is deafening. It has been nearly two month's since Garland received a criminal referral from the committee. The Question is, why hasn't Garland responded ( one way or another) by now. It is reasonable to assume Garland could have made a decision by now.
If Garland decided not to indict Meadows, why hasn't he released a statement saying so? Why the silence?
I have no idea what Garland is up too, however I do know this.
We know Garland is investigating some people, parts of the attempted coup. He is investigating, charging people who stormed the capital. He is investigating the fake electors from at least two states. If Garland is investigating parts of a coup, doesn't he have to investigate all aspects of the coup? Aren't they all connected?
We know Meadows was a main player in the attempted coup. He was by Trump's side during the entire planning of the coup. He knows everything. He was involved in everything. He was Trump's errand boy during the planning of the coup. If we know that, so does Garland.
It is reasonable to assume Garland is investigating Meadows. Is this the reason for Garland's silence? I do not know.
If we could learn the reason for the silence surrounding Meadows, that would tell us a lot of what Garland is up to when it comes to the entire investigation.
Walleye
(30,723 posts)Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(4,968 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)moved
PufPuf23
(8,689 posts)Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
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hydrolastic
(479 posts)you can't indict a "sitting" congressperson ?
dem4decades
(11,244 posts)If Garland doesn't move on the Trump cabal before midterms the enthusiasm for voting D will diminish.
People will be like, why bother.
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)But that will happen.
dem4decades
(11,244 posts)bucolic_frolic
(42,676 posts)So we may not see justice for those currently sitting until they lose at the ballot box.
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2naSalit
(86,061 posts)Because there are a few in prison who were were sitting when indicted.
Trafficant comes to mind but there are others and there will soon be a whole lot more.
bucolic_frolic
(42,676 posts)and selective prosecution could still allow some to escape if the focus is to nail the top of the pyramid.
I suspect the top will, if it comes to that, not one person but a group of them tied together. It is more difficult for them to fight charges and evade consequences that way.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)A Grand Jury investigating them for a RICO charge, which I think would be fantastic.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)The longer Meadows isnt indicted for contempt, the more likely DOJ will indict for more serious charges, including violations of the Presidential Records Act, which Meadows has desperately been trying to retroactively comply with, sending his personal emails and Texts to the archives.
Those records, once in the hands of the archives, will be available to both DOJ and the committee. To indict Meadows for contempt now would likely halt the turnover of those records.
That was reported just this past week.
The reason for Garlands silence? DOJ doesnt talk about ongoing investigations.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Its hilarious.
The Silence of The Lambs
going to slaughter. Its deafening. People gotta open their own two ears and shut off the Twitter clatter.
Coming to a courtroom near you, soon. Justice.
The Twittersphere has little collective clue clue as to how law and prosecutions work
patience is not a thing on social media. Might as well be rocket science.
Meadow is going down, just like Bannon, and Proud Boys and 700 + J6 tourists.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Garland knows Meadows is a big player in the attempted coup. Garland needs people like Meadows to turn, to make a plea deal. If Garland can build a case against Meadow's, bring serious charges against, I believe Meadow's would sing like a jail house rat.
If I know Meadows is a cowardly, weak, backstabbing SOB, who would turn on his own mother to stay out of jail. I would want to build a case against him.
Maybe this explains Garlands silence on the committee's criminal referral. Maybe Garland see's it as a hindrance to the case he is building.
former9thward
(31,805 posts)If you are referring to the Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) Act, it is not a criminal law. No one is going to be indicted for that. Whether the DOJ talks about an investigation or not is besides the point. The people associated with the investigation, witnesses and their lawyers do talk. This idea their is some triple secret investigation going on is nonsense.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)Regarding Meadows specifically:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/09/national-archives-meadows-trump-524043
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/meadows-apparently-screwed-up-turning-over-trump-era-records-to-national-archives/ar-AARGx3w
If the PRA is no big deal, and nobody ever gets indicted, then why have there been numerous reports in recent weeks that Meadows is desperately trying to comply with the act retroactively?
former9thward
(31,805 posts)I favor proof myself.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)former9thward
(31,805 posts)The reports from his lawyer where he says is client is "desperately trying to comply with the act"
dem4decades
(11,244 posts)Sancho
(9,065 posts)https://www.history.com/news/watergate-where-are-they-now
When the walls came tumbling down, and folks were facing jail, many reduced their sentence with guilty pleas. It would be good if one or two actually came out and put the orange idiot away.
edhopper
(33,208 posts)Garland doesn't want to look "political".
All Republicans are going g to get a pass.
It's going g to end with the actual rioters.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,789 posts)If I were an Insurrectionist cooperating, I sure wouldn't make a big noise about it for fear of magats shooting my children as revenge.
Dan
(3,524 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I hope you are right.