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I am not using Russian Dressing on my salads (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2022 OP
It's not actually Russian. LisaL Feb 2022 #1
uh oh...cancel culture agingdem Feb 2022 #2
Don't drink White Russians either Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #3
i like all those drinks and i like russian dressing samnsara Feb 2022 #6
Then let's call them White Ukrainians and Ukrainian dressing Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #7
Lol! BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #15
Traitor! edhopper Feb 2022 #10
The Dude abides. retread Feb 2022 #14
I switched to 1000 Island. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2022 #4
i like it! samnsara Feb 2022 #5
I just gave up Russian roulette. And, I feel better about myself. NCjack Feb 2022 #8
No, patriot, it's now Freedom Dressing! TxGuitar Feb 2022 #9
I prefer Roquefort dressing. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #11
You can call it nato dressing. Nt raccoon Feb 2022 #12
As if you have a choice lame54 Feb 2022 #13
Even the Russians don't use what we call Russian dressing DFW Feb 2022 #16
Yes, cocktail sauce is somewhat like the American invented 'Russian' dressing, which is pretty Celerity Feb 2022 #19
They actually changed the name to 1000 Island dressing during the Cold War bif Feb 2022 #17
that is not true, unfortunately (sounds like an urban legend), and they are two different sauces Celerity Feb 2022 #20
It's Freedom Dressing to you! Oneironaut Feb 2022 #18

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
1. It's not actually Russian.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

So if you wanted to, you could safely use it. You could even deep your freedom fries into it.

agingdem

(7,756 posts)
2. uh oh...cancel culture
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 04:15 PM
Feb 2022

Minnie Mouse in pants, Dr. Seuss pulled from shelves, Big Bird taking a jab...and now Russian Dressing...Chucky Toad is right...both sides do it!!!

DFW

(54,051 posts)
16. Even the Russians don't use what we call Russian dressing
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:01 PM
Feb 2022

It is called "cocktail sauce" here in Europe, but it is the same vile stuff--little more than half ketchup and half mayonnaise. Nothing at all like what we serve with Shrimp cocktail.

I don't know where the name comes from, but like "German" chocolate cake is not at all German, and "French" toast has nothing to do with France, I have never seen "Russian" dressing in Russia. They probably would have declared war on the west long before now if they knew we were ascribing that awful stuff to them.

Celerity

(42,646 posts)
19. Yes, cocktail sauce is somewhat like the American invented 'Russian' dressing, which is pretty
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 07:06 PM
Feb 2022

similar to Thousand Island. In Germany and some other nations, a very similar sauce is called American dressing. Here in Sweden a similar dressing is called (again completely invented) Rhode Island. Russian dressing was called Russian because the first iteration in the US had small amounts of caviar.



Russian Dressing




Thousand Island



American Dressing (Germany, etc)



Rhode island (Sweden)



Cocktail Sauce

bif

(22,560 posts)
17. They actually changed the name to 1000 Island dressing during the Cold War
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:49 PM
Feb 2022

Sort of like Freedom Fries when France refused to join us in invading Iraq.

Celerity

(42,646 posts)
20. that is not true, unfortunately (sounds like an urban legend), and they are two different sauces
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 07:16 PM
Feb 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_Island_dressing

According to The Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink, the dressing's name comes from the Thousand Islands region, located along the upper St. Lawrence River between the United States and Canada. Within that region, one common version of the dressing's origins says that a fishing guide's wife, Sophia LaLonde, made the condiment as part of her husband George's shore dinner. Often in this version, actress May Irwin requested the recipe after enjoying it. Irwin, in turn, gave it to another. In another, second version of the story, Thousand Islands summer resident, George Boldt, who built Boldt Castle between 1900 and 1904 and who was proprietor of the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, instructed the hotel's maître d'hôtel, Oscar Tschirky, to put the dressing on the menu in 1894 after he forgot dressing on salads and improvised with what ingredients were on hand at the time. A 1959 National Geographic article states, "Thousand Island Dressing was reportedly developed by Boldt's chef." Despite claims that he was involved in the introduction of the salad dressing at the Waldorf, chef Tschirky did not mention the salad dressing in his cookbook that was published during that time period.

When University of Wisconsin sociologist Michael Bell and his graduate students attempted to determine the origin of Thousand Island dressing in 2010, they found that the story differed among villages and islands in the Thousand Islands region. They discovered the existence of a third origin story in which the original recipe was based upon French dressing, which is supported by a recipe published in the 11th edition of The Fannie Farmer Cookbook (1965). All the claims appeared to be based upon oral traditions without supporting written records.

According to Food & Wine magazine, the dressing was a traditional sauce from the late 19th century in the Thousand Islands region. The wealthy who visited the region carried bottles of the local sauce back to New York City, such as one variant found in Clayton, New York, called Sophia's Sauce found at a local hotel, Herald Hotel run by innkeeper Sophia Lelonde.

Some food writers advance the claim that the dressing was invented by chef Theo Rooms of the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago during the same time period. The food historians at The Food Timeline point out that the earliest print reference to Thousand Island dressing appeared in 1912, and that recipes for different versions of the dressing begin to appear afterwards throughout the U.S.
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