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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:17 AM Mar 2022

Putin was "misinformed" of the military operations in Ukraine?

Of course not!

It is not good news. He does not want to be associated with it. He does not want the domestic backlash that might come from the mothers of dead soldiers.

His advisers and generals are too afraid to tell him what's happening? Sound familiar?

Of course, he knew what was happening and what is happening. It's a mess and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty with the bad news.

His people are beginning to feel the pinch of the sanctions and his military has been embarrassed in Ukraine.

Now, he pretends he knew nothing about it?

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Putin was "misinformed" of the military operations in Ukraine? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2022 OP
That isn't what was reported FBaggins Mar 2022 #1
Edited title of post: kentuck Mar 2022 #2
Sorry... still wrong FBaggins Mar 2022 #3
Wherever it comes from.... kentuck Mar 2022 #4
Sigh... this is declassified US intelligence FBaggins Mar 2022 #5
Some propaganda is good. kentuck Mar 2022 #6
There is no way he didn't know unless he is completely cut off from all doc03 Mar 2022 #7
In my opinion... kentuck Mar 2022 #8

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
1. That isn't what was reported
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:27 AM
Mar 2022

It isn’t like he’s claiming that he didn’t know about the invasion. Nor is it even Putin making the claim.

Some US source is claiming (and the pentagon agreed) that some of his sources are too afraid to admit how badly things have been going and thus he’s operating on poor data.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
3. Sorry... still wrong
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:51 AM
Mar 2022

If it’s propaganda… it’s ours (trying to get him to question whether things are actually worse than he’s been told).

Note again that the pentagon has confirmed that this is essentially our belief. Maybe a Trump administration would back up Putin in such a claim… but why would President Biden?

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
4. Wherever it comes from....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:56 AM
Mar 2022

...I think it is something Putin would prefer over the alternative.

He would rather not be blamed for any failures in his economy or on the battlefield.

By the way, the Pentagon has been wrong before.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
5. Sigh... this is declassified US intelligence
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:17 AM
Mar 2022

It isn’t Putin’s spin. Biden chose to release it. I have no idea why you think Biden would help Putin.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
6. Some propaganda is good.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:32 AM
Mar 2022

Especially when it is true.

I don't know it it helps Putin as much as he may think it does. He is into self-preservation.

In the short term, it may help Putin from accepting responsibility, but eventually, the Russian people will see it for what it is.

I think Putin is losing this propaganda war. Something he is not accustomed to, I am sure.

I don't think Biden is trying to help Putin??

doc03

(35,148 posts)
7. There is no way he didn't know unless he is completely cut off from all
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 09:18 AM
Mar 2022

international media. I am sure he has satellite TV and internet and he is fluent in English.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
8. In my opinion...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 09:53 AM
Mar 2022

The American intelligence is being released for the Russian people. Russia is not yet a totally-closed society.

But, what is Putin telling his people? I think he is probably telling them exactly what the American intelligence says he is doing.

But the Americans are putting it into perspective for the Russian people.

Not a win for Putin.

It is a counter-intelligence operation.

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