Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:02 PM

Nevilledog (45,654 posts)

A Democrat erupts at Josh Hawley, and a 'loudness' gap is revealed

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Greg Sargent
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Such a big moment: Sen. Brian Schatz erupted at Josh Hawley on the floor, delivering a brutal takedown of Hawley's bad faith.

I talked to Schatz about why Dems need to do this more often, to alert voters.

“Democrats need to make more noise," he told me:

washingtonpost.com
Opinion | A Democrat erupts at Josh Hawley, and a ‘loudness’ gap is revealed
A showdown on the Senate floor points to a vast imbalance between the parties.
8:40 AM · Apr 8, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/08/brian-schatz-josh-hawley-ukraine-loudness-gap/

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“Democrats need to make more noise,” Sen. Brian Schatz told me. “We have to scream from the rooftops, because this is a battle for the free world now.”
I contacted the Hawaii Democrat to talk about his extraordinary eruption at Sen. Josh Hawley on the Senate floor Thursday night. Schatz ripped his Missouri Republican colleague over his hold on a senior staffing nominee to the Defense Department, even as the U.S. is calibrating its response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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But that was the superficial cause of the eruption. The deeper catalyst was how Hawley is doing this, a stance that’s saturated in almost bottomless levels of bad faith. That’s the real topic of Schatz’s tirade, and you should watch all of it:

https://archive.ph/o/TUiex/

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This raises some questions: Why don’t Democrats create moments like this more often? Are there other ways of getting loud, as Schatz did here, that don’t degrade our politics and are substantively and politically productive?

What sparked Schatz’s ire is Hawley’s justification for his hold on President Biden’s nominees, particularly Hawley’s claim that Biden isn’t delivering sufficient military aid to Ukraine fast enough. Schatz also blasted Hawley’s demand that Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin resign over the Afghanistan withdrawal to get his holds lifted.

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A Democrat erupts at Josh Hawley, and a 'loudness' gap is revealed (Original post)	Nevilledog	Apr 2022	OP
K&R	ck4829	Apr 2022	#1
To answer the question of why more Democrata won't do this more often.....	TheRealNorth	Apr 2022	#2
Fox viewers are irrelevant. We need to be loud for everyone else.	Nevilledog	Apr 2022	#3
Exactly	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#5
+1	SoonerPride	Apr 2022	#7
True, but as I said the MSM will run with how Faux frames it...	TheRealNorth	Apr 2022	#24
Or	2naSalit	Apr 2022	#32
KnR	Hekate	Apr 2022	#4
The absolutely need to do it more often.	Ferrets are Cool	Apr 2022	#6
1500 coordinated radio stations will always be louder as long as dem leaders ignore it	certainot	Apr 2022	#20
Why is radio less "free" than TV?	oldsoftie	Apr 2022	#34
it's a 95% monopoly. and all the blowhards are protected by call screeners that can eliminate	certainot	Apr 2022	#44
regardless of the nonsense broadcast, they have the same rights as TV.	oldsoftie	Apr 2022	#54
"your sister's a whore, your brother's a thief, and your ideas are treasonous" said 300 racist assho	certainot	Apr 2022	#60
So we buy some stations. The others are on because they get listeners. Buy some for us.	oldsoftie	Apr 2022	#61
it's been a rw monopoly for 30 years. walmart vs mom and pop. heavy blue areas are dominated by	certainot	Apr 2022	#62
Yep	ck4829	Apr 2022	#47
That video missed the beginning.	mahina	Apr 2022	#8
Whoa!	llmart	Apr 2022	#10
Damn. He hit point after point. Most people can't keep track of so many horrible acts.	JanMichael	Apr 2022	#33
The point that got me the most is that he's damaging the Department of Defense.	XacerbatedDem	Apr 2022	#39
No no ... more like this ....	eppur_se_muova	Apr 2022	#42
He's not even really yelling. he's being passionate & assertive.	oldsoftie	Apr 2022	#35
Lol. I read you hundred percent	mahina	Apr 2022	#38
It's about damn time	BeyondGeography	Apr 2022	#9
Bah, they wouldn't know strength if it came up and smacked them.	OldBaldy1701E	Apr 2022	#36
Which we have manifestly failed to do since Clinton	BeyondGeography	Apr 2022	#40
Neither will I.	OldBaldy1701E	Apr 2022	#41
Exactly right.	Pepsidog	Apr 2022	#55
Indeed	ck4829	Apr 2022	#48
Bumping this thread to ensure people see it...	CBHagman	Apr 2022	#11
The squeaky wheel always gets the media.	LakeArenal	Apr 2022	#12
Should've called hawley an un-American brutal dictator sympathizer. Nt	Baked Potato	Apr 2022	#13
All Democrats need to respond exactly like that, every time.	FoxNewsSucks	Apr 2022	#14
Yep	ck4829	Apr 2022	#49
Democrats Still Act Like They're Going To A Dinner Party...	GB_RN	Apr 2022	#15
No, Democrats act like they're governing. You can't throw these tirades too often.	Bucky	Apr 2022	#16
I Didn't Say Throw Tirades...	GB_RN	Apr 2022	#19
This message was self-deleted by its author	jfz9580m	Apr 2022	#28
That was not a tirade.	FoxNewsSucks	Apr 2022	#51
Time to stop being nice.	ck4829	Apr 2022	#50
And THIS Is My Point.	GB_RN	Apr 2022	#53
👍	Joinfortmill	Apr 2022	#17
Preach it, Brother, preach it!	colorado_ufo	Apr 2022	#18
All Hawaiians and all Americans should be proud of Senator Schatz	Mysterian	Apr 2022	#21
great little speech! Fuck you Hawley, you traitor!!!	Celerity	Apr 2022	#22
Thank you, Senator Schatz!	Wild blueberry	Apr 2022	#23
Any damn politician that raises his fist in agreement with insurrectionists	Emile	Apr 2022	#25
The fact	Rebl2	Apr 2022	#26
When I say we should show emotion, this is what I mean.	Qutzupalotl	Apr 2022	#27
TLP is on-board	Fritz Walter	Apr 2022	#29
I hate the truth	Snoopy 7	Apr 2022	#30
Butter knife to a gun fight.	Meadowoak	Apr 2022	#43
I hate the truth	Snoopy 7	Apr 2022	#31
The gap is with the media. They are not reporting on Republican bad faith.	yardwork	Apr 2022	#37
Remember how Pres. Obama called out some GQP idiocy but didn't mention their names and didn't have	Maraya1969	Apr 2022	#45
This is what "stop playing nice" looks and sounds like, more please. nt	Hotler	Apr 2022	#46
Seems to me if the Dems DON'T make a lot of noise then we are as guilty as the silent ones.	flying_wahini	Apr 2022	#52
Awesome point-by-point takedown of a hollow, pathetic man. -nt	CrispyQ	Apr 2022	#56
We'll see more of this Dem Rep behavior if we publicly express it ourselves	stollen	Apr 2022	#57
Sen. Schumer (Majority Leader) must stop Hawley's abuse of the Senate rules.	NCjack	Apr 2022	#58
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2022	#59

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Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:03 PM

ck4829 (34,310 posts)

A Democrat erupts at Josh Hawley, and a 'loudness' gap is revealed

1. K&R

2. To answer the question of why more Democrata won't do this more often.....

3. Fox viewers are irrelevant. We need to be loud for everyone else.

5. Exactly

7. +1

24. True, but as I said the MSM will run with how Faux frames it...

32. Or

4. KnR

6. The absolutely need to do it more often.

20. 1500 coordinated radio stations will always be louder as long as dem leaders ignore it

34. Why is radio less "free" than TV?

44. it's a 95% monopoly. and all the blowhards are protected by call screeners that can eliminate

54. regardless of the nonsense broadcast, they have the same rights as TV.

60. "your sister's a whore, your brother's a thief, and your ideas are treasonous" said 300 racist assho

61. So we buy some stations. The others are on because they get listeners. Buy some for us.

62. it's been a rw monopoly for 30 years. walmart vs mom and pop. heavy blue areas are dominated by

47. Yep

8. That video missed the beginning.

10. Whoa!

33. Damn. He hit point after point. Most people can't keep track of so many horrible acts.

39. The point that got me the most is that he's damaging the Department of Defense.

42. No no ... more like this ....

35. He's not even really yelling. he's being passionate & assertive.

38. Lol. I read you hundred percent

9. It's about damn time

36. Bah, they wouldn't know strength if it came up and smacked them.

40. Which we have manifestly failed to do since Clinton

41. Neither will I.

55. Exactly right.

48. Indeed

11. Bumping this thread to ensure people see it...

12. The squeaky wheel always gets the media.

13. Should've called hawley an un-American brutal dictator sympathizer. Nt

14. All Democrats need to respond exactly like that, every time.

49. Yep

15. Democrats Still Act Like They're Going To A Dinner Party...

16. No, Democrats act like they're governing. You can't throw these tirades too often.

19. I Didn't Say Throw Tirades...

51. That was not a tirade.

50. Time to stop being nice.

53. And THIS Is My Point.

17. 👍

18. Preach it, Brother, preach it!

21. All Hawaiians and all Americans should be proud of Senator Schatz

22. great little speech! Fuck you Hawley, you traitor!!!

23. Thank you, Senator Schatz!

25. Any damn politician that raises his fist in agreement with insurrectionists

26. The fact

27. When I say we should show emotion, this is what I mean.

29. TLP is on-board

30. I hate the truth

43. Butter knife to a gun fight.

31. I hate the truth

37. The gap is with the media. They are not reporting on Republican bad faith.

45. Remember how Pres. Obama called out some GQP idiocy but didn't mention their names and didn't have

46. This is what "stop playing nice" looks and sounds like, more please. nt

52. Seems to me if the Dems DON'T make a lot of noise then we are as guilty as the silent ones.

56. Awesome point-by-point takedown of a hollow, pathetic man. -nt

57. We'll see more of this Dem Rep behavior if we publicly express it ourselves

58. Sen. Schumer (Majority Leader) must stop Hawley's abuse of the Senate rules.

59. Kicked and recommended.