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Can anybody explain this one? (Original Post) Tomconroy Apr 2022 OP
Or this one Budi Apr 2022 #1
WTF? Tomconroy Apr 2022 #2
Same kindred spirits, dif day. Budi Apr 2022 #4
Most on the list Dorian Gray Apr 2022 #7
And there you have it. The elephant in the room nobody wants to admit. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #10
Unbelievable. sheshe2 Apr 2022 #25
An odd collection of bedfellows to be sure. DFW Apr 2022 #3
This isn't the 1st time the same group voted in lockstep. Here they are. Budi Apr 2022 #32
Nope, can't explain it. I do like both of them, but I can't explain this one. Emile Apr 2022 #5
+1... myohmy2 Apr 2022 #33
Maybe someone should ask Speaker Pelosi. ancianita Apr 2022 #6
Hmmmmmmmm empedocles Apr 2022 #8
Wished I could explain Joe Manchin votes too, but? Emile Apr 2022 #9
No, Joe Manchin comes from a deep red state and has to be careful in order to Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #13
ACLU lobbied against the bill rpannier Apr 2022 #19
And a 'they all do it' is not acceptable really. Again Manchin is in a state that went for Trump Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #14
Confusing articles on the Squad's response to the invasion of Ukraine PurgedVoter Apr 2022 #11
Really, she is concerned with damaging the Oligarchs? Where is her concern for the people Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #15
The only reason I could think of? kentuck Apr 2022 #12
I don't think so. The Oligarchs use this money for their own pleasure not to help anyone. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #17
The ACLU lobbied against the bill rpannier Apr 2022 #18
I'm guessing it's something to do with this. But I find it baffling rpannier Apr 2022 #16
it is puzzling as look what Cori Bush said earlier Celerity Apr 2022 #20
Yes, they could have abstained PatSeg Apr 2022 #27
If the bill lacked provisions for due process... Trueblue Texan Apr 2022 #21
Somehow the way the tweet posted it omitted two names. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #22
No LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #23
I can guess mcar Apr 2022 #24
I'm not sure they really understand how PatSeg Apr 2022 #26
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #28
As far as Omar goes.... CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #29
I am confused by this also LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #30
DISGUSTING!!! 👎😡🤬 nt Raine Apr 2022 #31
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Same kindred spirits, dif day.
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 04:59 AM
Apr 2022

They tell us who they are.
Really.

Appreciate your OP.

They also were against the US involvement in Ukraine when RU first invaded the country, re: weapons & sanctions.
And NATO. As well

Leave Russia alone,
🤔

DFW

(54,055 posts)
3. An odd collection of bedfellows to be sure.
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 04:54 AM
Apr 2022

I think the tweet got it right: the fringe coming together. I hope they enjoy each other's company, and all go on nice long vacations together.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
13. No, Joe Manchin comes from a deep red state and has to be careful in order to
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:00 AM
Apr 2022

get elected. AOC comes from a deep blue district thus I see no reason for such a vote. I can't believe she supports Putin's Oligarchs and the unprovoked attack on Ukraine. However, she is not in my district or state so it is up to her constituents whether her actions are acceptable to them or perhaps a primary may be in order.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
14. And a 'they all do it' is not acceptable really. Again Manchin is in a state that went for Trump
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:03 AM
Apr 2022

by more than 40 points. AOC does not have this problem as her district is a Democratic stronghold.

PurgedVoter

(2,191 posts)
11. Confusing articles on the Squad's response to the invasion of Ukraine
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 06:53 AM
Apr 2022

Part of the issue is that the right leaning publications and reporters will either make things up or twist them when members of the Squad are concerned. At the same time pundits who say they are liberal but always seem to advise us to be more like Republicans, have a special treatment of the Squad.
At the other end, some liberal voices are accusing the Squad of being militant in responding to Putin the way they are.

For example:

Left Voice is accusing them of being war mongers and fake liberals. https://www.leftvoice.org/the-squad-calls-for-u-s-intervention-in-ukraine/

The New York Post thinks they are in league with Putin. https://nypost.com/2022/03/19/squad-takes-kid-gloves-to-putin/

I do know that AOC is concerned with not damaging the people of Russia any more than necessary. I agree, but I don't think we have a choice when the Russian government is exploiting their own people to power their genocidal attacks on Ukraine.

The media controlled cult in Russia is the real thing and not just the imitation that Fox News, Qanon and Maga have made the Republican party into. In our case it is a large dangerous minority that pretends it is an endangered majority. In their case it is a large dangerous majority that makes speaking the truth dangerous even if the authorities don't come after you.

My own thinking is that right now Russia is like Jones Town or the Branch Davidian compound. We dare not let them continue doing the things they do, but we don't want them to drink the cool-aide. Or in this case use the bomb.

So how do we stop this war, avoid injury the the Russian people, protect the Ukrainian people, stand up to global terrorism and keep from having the button pushed? I expect we will see a lot of conflicts of opinion here. My hope is that between our voices we can come up with a way to resolve these issues.

If not, we can only hope that the next species to rise up from the ruins is wiser than ours. If it comes to that, I wish them luck.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
15. Really, she is concerned with damaging the Oligarchs? Where is her concern for the people
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:05 AM
Apr 2022

of Ukraine? I just don't like this sort of thing. But she is not in my state.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
12. The only reason I could think of?
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 06:54 AM
Apr 2022

They may think that it would only escalate the war and would serve no other useful purpose? But why shouldn't they help pay for rebuilding what their pal, Putin, has destroyed?

rpannier

(24,304 posts)
18. The ACLU lobbied against the bill
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:06 AM
Apr 2022

It's maybe why
But, as I said in my own thread response, they should have abstained

rpannier

(24,304 posts)
16. I'm guessing it's something to do with this. But I find it baffling
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:05 AM
Apr 2022

If it's true, they should have abstained

ACLU officials told lawmakers Tuesday that the legislation could run afoul of due-process protections in the U.S. Constitution because it does not allow its targets to challenge the government’s actions in court, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private talks. ACLU officials warned that the measure would probably be struck down by the judicial branch if enacted as proposed, giving Russia a potential propaganda victory over the United States, the people said.

This was also mentioned in the Wapo article

On Tuesday night, lawmakers voted to dramatically weaken the measure by turning it into a “Sense of Congress” resolution that does not create the new authority. The amended measure also creates a task force giving the Biden administration 60 days to “determine the constitutional mechanisms” through which President Biden could confiscate the assets, after which lawmakers could create a new legislative proposal.

Still... should have abstained

Trueblue Texan

(2,372 posts)
21. If the bill lacked provisions for due process...
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 07:46 AM
Apr 2022

...it could be easily challenged in court and give Russia a win. This was a non-binding resolution but was based on an earlier bill with the same problem of no due process. "The Squad" is able to see around corners like this because they've seen plenty of problems with no due process. BTW it was all four of the so-called "Squad" that voted against the bill as well as 2 other conservatives.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
22. Somehow the way the tweet posted it omitted two names.
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 08:53 AM
Apr 2022

If you click on it you will see the full list. I added the two omitted names at the bottom of the OP.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
26. I'm not sure they really understand how
Thu Apr 28, 2022, 05:25 PM
Apr 2022

government and legislation works. This is not helpful at all. Very disappointing.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
29. As far as Omar goes....
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:20 AM
Apr 2022

Perhaps because she is completely full of shit and literally only cares about her own self?

Hey I live here. She HAS to go.

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