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JohnSJ

(91,967 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:03 AM Jun 2022

Yesterday I saw an article from Jezebel telling people NOT to donate to Planned Parenthood

Implying that all Planned Parenthood does is collect large sums of money, and does very little to help women.

That is a gross misrepresentation of the facts.

They advocate supporting independent abortion clinics, which is fine, but that they go out of their way to actively tell their readers NOT to support Planned Parenthood, implying that Planned Parenthood is some kind of nefarious organization is not only counterproductive, but makes me wonder if they have an alternative agenda.

https://jezebel.com/where-to-donate-abortion-access-roe-v-wade-1849053167


When on the same day Roe was overturned, they also wrote an article blaming Democrats for what happened, implying why should we vote for Democrats then? Not only is that a gross mischaracterization of the facts, it is a complete distortion of history and the facts.

https://jezebel.com/roe-is-dead-democrats-want-us-to-vote-for-what-exact-1849105474

This is a similar argument the Green Party used in 2000 and in 2016, and helped bring us to where we are today.

The best way to undo the damage is to elect enough Democrats in Congress so we have a majority of the Senate by at least two seats, and maintain the majority in the House in the midterms.

Since the conservatives on the SC have essentially become an ideological fold of the Republican Party, and not equitable arbitrators of civil rights, woman’s rights, worker’s rights, environmental right’s, etc., that more than justifies the expansion if the SC to balance things out, and the only way that realistically can happen is by voting for Democrats.


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Yesterday I saw an article from Jezebel telling people NOT to donate to Planned Parenthood (Original Post) JohnSJ Jun 2022 OP
That is surprising and disturbing. niyad Jun 2022 #1
Very! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #33
Jezebel has hated Democrats for a long time. betsuni Jun 2022 #44
First clue, named Jezebel: txwhitedove Jun 2022 #65
No, it used to be wonderful site, liberal feminist with interesting articles and hundreds of betsuni Jun 2022 #67
Yeah, I was thinking along those Cha Jun 2022 #77
That's a quote from a site that should never be seen on DU muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #83
Planned Parenthood does just fine with regular funding, and if people want their dollars to go WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #2
What is "regular funding"? It sounds like Jezebel is trying to cut their "regular funding." pnwmom Jun 2022 #25
The majority of its funds come from Medicaid, Title X and private insurance reimbursements. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #29
Who pays for the buildings in flames? Who pays for the maimed office staff & murdered doctors? Hekate Jun 2022 #70
Where, at Planned Parenthood or independent clinics? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #71
I posted that because there are other clinics that do abortions Lars39 Jun 2022 #3
The beef appears to be an article telling people NOT to donate to PP. n/t pnwmom Jun 2022 #26
So instead of catapulting the info about the other clinics, Lars39 Jun 2022 #30
It was Jezabel that did that. Why tell people not to donate to PP, why not just tell people to JohnSJ Jun 2022 #39
Here are the links I thought were important... Lars39 Jun 2022 #43
Excuse me. No where in my OP did I even mention this was posted by someone on DU. I specifically JohnSJ Jun 2022 #47
The PP comments in the article were unnecessary, agreed. dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #50
Did you mean to post this to JohnSJ? Lars39 Jun 2022 #53
No, I actually meant to post it to you... dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #58
Thank you for gleaning what I did from the article. Lars39 Jun 2022 #61
I've never been to Jezebel. CrispyQ Jun 2022 #4
This is the fault of every person who stayed home in november 2016 Ray Bruns Jun 2022 #18
It used to be a great liberal feminist site with a wonderful community of commenters. betsuni Jun 2022 #48
My limited funds wryter2000 Jun 2022 #5
I already support Planned Parenthood, and I hope they will work with the Mexican government Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #11
Mexico isn't necessary- Reservations and National parks are likely more practical. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #31
Mexico is very close to parts of Texas, though wryter2000 Jun 2022 #64
#1 What is this "reservations" idea floating around*? Native Americans are supposed to help solve... Hekate Jun 2022 #76
NY has done the same. Funds to cover wnylib Jun 2022 #27
and I believe Newsom is trying to do that in California also JohnSJ Jun 2022 #42
I heard yesterday on NPR that wnylib Jun 2022 #49
That is an excellent and important strategy I think. Thanks JohnSJ Jun 2022 #56
Illinois will hold strong. murielm99 Jun 2022 #60
But still a long trip even for women from Ohio. wnylib Jun 2022 #63
I think it will come with the territory. murielm99 Jun 2022 #68
My sister worked on passage of a similar law in CT wryter2000 Jun 2022 #66
Probably should contact them and ask. They are not new to this, after all. ... Hekate Jun 2022 #73
I'm Episcopalian wryter2000 Jun 2022 #74
Excellent. For many, many years I've recited a list of liberal denominations to DUers when things... Hekate Jun 2022 #78
Thanks. wryter2000 Jun 2022 #82
As my late MIL told me. I was very active opposing Randall Terry's "No Place To Hide" campaign Hekate Jun 2022 #84
Hear, Hear! peggysue2 Jun 2022 #6
+1000!!! wnylib Jun 2022 #35
... dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #54
They funded the clinic for free care that I used in my first marriage. appleannie1 Jun 2022 #7
The CYA talking points have gone out mcar Jun 2022 #8
Blame Obama, but most of all blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #10
I saw some of that yesterday wryter2000 Jun 2022 #15
This forum was flooded with such comments yesterday. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #16
Hers was one vote, she could not have stopped this. TNNurse Jun 2022 #23
Well, she could have retired in 2013. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #32
Exactly. That argument intentionally takes things out of historical context, and ignores McConnel JohnSJ Jun 2022 #46
But they never blame Republicans mcar Jun 2022 #40
Exactly, mcar.. they're Projecting.. Not Cha Jun 2022 #79
With the leaked opinion, they had time to get their talking points ready mcar Jun 2022 #80
This OP brings up a nagging question for me. I've been an active member since 2008 with 5000 OPs.. usaf-vet Jun 2022 #9
I engaged with one yesterday wryter2000 Jun 2022 #14
If you ever get chance to serve on MIRT BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #20
I presented two links from an online publication which I thought were controversial JohnSJ Jun 2022 #55
Follow the money. Like many news outlets, it's now owned by a private equity company NullTuples Jun 2022 #12
+1000 n/t MarcA Jun 2022 #17
Thanks for posting that! Lars39 Jun 2022 #19
+1,000! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #36
Wow, you have done your research JohnSJ Jun 2022 #57
I've not paid any attention to Jezebel in the past but this is bonkers! halfulglas Jun 2022 #13
Jezebel has sucked for a while now, I've ignored them. Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #21
Sounds like Jill Stein is involved.... paleotn Jun 2022 #22
blaming Democrats Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #24
If anyone on DU suggests voting against Dems or against electing Dems IronLionZion Jun 2022 #28
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #38
Thank you! I wanted to post about that horrible article but the last time I posted betsuni Jun 2022 #34
No, thank-you JohnSJ Jun 2022 #59
Here are the helpful links within the article... Lars39 Jun 2022 #37
Not familiar w/Jezebel but I've always supported PP & donated to them - TBF Jun 2022 #41
Yeah the shitty uninformed hit takes were flying yesterday. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #45
Misinformation at its finest. Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to poor women and other iluvtennis Jun 2022 #51
I won't stop donating to Planned Parenthood. llmart Jun 2022 #52
Is Susan Sarandon on their editorial board? n/t TygrBright Jun 2022 #62
TY, JohnSJ. I read the Jezebel article but in the horror of the day could think of no coherent reply Hekate Jun 2022 #69
Exactly. Why do they think denigrating PP is a good strategy to promote independent clinics JohnSJ Jun 2022 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 2022 #72
Planned Parenthood funds the LEGAL FIGHTS! tosh Jun 2022 #81
Odd. H2O Man Jun 2022 #85
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2022 #86

betsuni

(25,141 posts)
44. Jezebel has hated Democrats for a long time.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jun 2022

Republicans are innocent victims of economic anxiety.

txwhitedove

(3,922 posts)
65. First clue, named Jezebel:
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jun 2022

"The Jezebel Spirit term is often used to describe someone who uses cunning, deception, and seduction to tear apart entire marriages, churches, and other entities. Unlike many evil spirits, the Jezebel Spirit one operates in a more subtle and sinister way."

betsuni

(25,141 posts)
67. No, it used to be wonderful site, liberal feminist with interesting articles and hundreds of
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jun 2022

comments, great community. Then the real writers all left and it's like someone's relative was hired and she hired all her friends and they never do any work. Can't spell, don't do any research, think hating Democrats makes them cool. Morons. Like "The Producers," the owners want the site to be terrible and fail, for some reason.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,160 posts)
83. That's a quote from a site that should never be seen on DU
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jun 2022

Please, take it down. The site has a banner "Crisis Pregnancy Centers Need Your Help NOW". That is a truly offensive thing to bring here.

If you want to know about Jezebel, it's a biblical name - a non-Jewish woman who married a Jewish king, and fought the Jewish faith.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jezebel-queen-of-Israel

It became a synonym for a wicked woman.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,153 posts)
2. Planned Parenthood does just fine with regular funding, and if people want their dollars to go
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jun 2022

farther, donating to independent clinics, abortion funds or clinic escort funds is the way to go. Independent clinics treat more abortion patients than PP does.

Planned Parenthood is also working hard to bust unionizing efforts at some of its clinics, FWIW.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,153 posts)
29. The majority of its funds come from Medicaid, Title X and private insurance reimbursements.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

Private donations make up a relatively small amount of its funding, and as a result, individual donations don't go very far at scale. A $20 donation goes a lot farther when given to a local abortion fund than to PP or its foundation.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,153 posts)
71. Where, at Planned Parenthood or independent clinics?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

In either case, it's going to be private insurance, but PP certainly has deeper pockets and greater resources than independent clinics for such things.

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
3. I posted that because there are other clinics that do abortions
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

that need the money. If PP doesn’t perform all abortions, then these other clinics need help, too.
I have nothing against Planned Parenthood. What beef do you have with the other clinics getting help?

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
30. So instead of catapulting the info about the other clinics,
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

he has chosen to make it about something else. I grabbed that article because I never really hear about any other organization that helps.

JohnSJ

(91,967 posts)
39. It was Jezabel that did that. Why tell people not to donate to PP, why not just tell people to
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jun 2022

support independent clinics?

JohnSJ

(91,967 posts)
47. Excuse me. No where in my OP did I even mention this was posted by someone on DU. I specifically
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jun 2022

addressed it as coming from Jezabel

and the links I posted were from Jezabel, NOT DU.



dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
50. The PP comments in the article were unnecessary, agreed.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jun 2022

But I agree with you... The other organizations pointed to in the article do a LOT of good and directly help women in need right now. Abortion funds and independent clinics are worthwhile and need help so they can continue to help. Whether or not one likes/reads/trusts Jezebel.com shouldn't reflect negatively on these organizations simply because their names were uttered by a writer at Jezebel.com. Damn, man, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Bottom line for anyone and everyone: It's YOUR money. Give it to who YOU want and where YOU think it will do the most good. Or don't.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
58. No, I actually meant to post it to you...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

I saw your pre-edit post yesterday and thought it contained some GREAT resources. I was glad you posted it and set up a monthly donation to the Chicago Abortion Fund immediately after. (Misleading, IMO, since they serve the Midwest region, not just Chicago.) I already donate monthly to the Hope Clinic for Women in Southern IL and was looking for another way to help. So, while I didn't agree with their PP comments, I also don't agree that there was nothing of value just because it was Jezebel.com.

So, FWIW, I wanted you to know that *I* appreciated your post!

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
61. Thank you for gleaning what I did from the article.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

I was surprised at all the different organizations out there helping.
DUs not a very forgiving place at times. Your words mean a lot to me.

CrispyQ

(36,235 posts)
4. I've never been to Jezebel.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jun 2022

Not a very good first impression. I will always advocate for & donate to Planned Parenthood. And we need MORE dems in congress & state legislatures, not fewer.

Someone should send them this:



betsuni

(25,141 posts)
48. It used to be a great liberal feminist site with a wonderful community of commenters.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jun 2022

Hundreds of comments and interesting articles. Then the writers left and they hired idiots who can't spell or do any research and all political articles bash Democrats. Few comments, i's a ghost town. What a shame.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
5. My limited funds
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022

Will go to organizations that help people travel for abortions. If PP puts something like that together, I may give them my money. States like CT are gearing up to help women from other states, but CT is pretty far from TX. My efforts are going into making GOTV calls.

Lonestarblue

(9,882 posts)
11. I already support Planned Parenthood, and I hope they will work with the Mexican government
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jun 2022

to set up clinics in Mexico along the border with Texas. Many Texas women may seek abortions in Mexico, but there’s little way of knowing about the safety or whether they are getting the actual drugs for medication abortion instead of a fake.

Currently, New Mexico does not have enough clinics to handle the overflow from Texas, so more clinics could be established there closer to the Texas border.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,372 posts)
31. Mexico isn't necessary- Reservations and National parks are likely more practical.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jun 2022

Hopefully Biden and Dept. Of Interior will issue some EO’s in the near future.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
64. Mexico is very close to parts of Texas, though
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

When my brother lived near Tucson, he and his wife got dentistry in Mexico. It can be a tremendous resource if the Mexican people and government are willing to help.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
76. #1 What is this "reservations" idea floating around*? Native Americans are supposed to help solve...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jun 2022

…. what is, frankly, a white people’s problem?** Out of what abundant resources we’ve endowed to them? Many such places are in poverty, with clinics barely scraping by — and we want them to be the conduit for our medical care? We want them to take in our poor, and shelter them, and with what funds — and to take on the murderous fanatics on our behalf?

Frankly, I think this is on us. It’s our responsibility. Our society created this clusterfck, and we have to clean it up.


* meaning I’ve now seen this idea more than once at DU since the news about Roe broke

** “white people” — meaning the society and the power structure of the US

#2 National Parks are NOT for building clinics that will attract fanatics who are armed and dangerous

With thanks to malaise, “let me make this pellucidly clear”: I myself am white, a 74 y.o. woman who has supported Planned Parenthood and their good works since I was about 20.



wnylib

(21,146 posts)
27. NY has done the same. Funds to cover
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jun 2022

transportation and abortion fees for out of state women. Also, laws to protect doctors and patients from extradition for prosecution, and patient records from being released to prosecutors.

NY is also a long ways from states that are criminalizing abortions. Covering transportation costs should help some women in more distant states.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
49. I heard yesterday on NPR that
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jun 2022

California, Oregon, and Washington are forming a "Pacific bloc" to protect abortion rights in the West. They will be accessible to nearby states from north to south in the West.

The Midwest and South will be the most vulnerable, cut off from blue states.

EDIT TO ADD: Depending on how elections go in PA, we here in NY might see an influx of women from
PA. NY and PA share a very long border.

murielm99

(30,657 posts)
60. Illinois will hold strong.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

Women can come here from everywhere in the Midwest. We are right in the middle of things.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
63. But still a long trip even for women from Ohio.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jun 2022

So transportation assistance and places to stay before and after will be necessary. Financial assistance to cover costs.



murielm99

(30,657 posts)
68. I think it will come with the territory.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

Women in Illinois will provide help. I remember doing that when I was in college, before Roe.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
66. My sister worked on passage of a similar law in CT
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jun 2022

She's very proud of her work. It involved allowing more medical practitioners to perform the procedure and blocking the release of reproductive health records.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
73. Probably should contact them and ask. They are not new to this, after all. ...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

When I was on one of local PP’s committees over 40 years ago, a lovely old gent was pointed out to me as a retired Episcopalian bishop who was a local hero of the pro-choice movement, because before Roe he was part of the network helping women get abortions. Underground Railroad.



wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
74. I'm Episcopalian
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 02:06 PM
Jun 2022

Our rector organized a bunch of the women of the parish to write a statement to be read in church tomorrow. I'm kind of sorry he didn't include himself because he is royally pissed and he'd have good things to say.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
78. Excellent. For many, many years I've recited a list of liberal denominations to DUers when things...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:06 PM
Jun 2022

… get too overheated here on how all religions are the root cause of all evil. Just because American Evangelicals have gone off the deep end and are very noisy in the public sphere, does not make them the voice for everyone else of all religions.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
82. Thanks.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:12 PM
Jun 2022

We're reading Bishop Curry's statement tomorrow in church. We didn't have time to write anything better.

BTW, according to Jewish law, the mother's well-being comes first. The bastards are trampling on people's freedom of religion.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
84. As my late MIL told me. I was very active opposing Randall Terry's "No Place To Hide" campaign
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jun 2022

Didn’t want to talk about my activities with my elderly Viennese Jewish MIL for fear of giving offense. But when she pried it out of me she told me she didn’t even see the problem — she said something like, “You cut off the branch to save the tree.”

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
6. Hear, Hear!
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jun 2022

Voices telling us to act against our own self-interest, be it blaming Dems, not voting Dem, not supporting Planned Parenthood, etc, should be ignored, kicked to the curb. This is nothing more than gaslighting.

The power we have is through the vote, every vote, en masse at every election, every level.

As for blame? Let's forget blame for the moment. Let's think voting targets to prevent another social, economic, political disaster and/or the ruination of our Republic.

Top of the list?

That would be the Republican Party, the religious zealots and the deep-pocket donors fueling this insanity. Let's include anyone involved in the J6 insurrection and/or those still embracing the Big Lie. Let's beat them at the voting booth and ensure these suckers never hold public office again. Let's expose the billionaires behind the curtain, the shadowy groups that would transform the country into their own twisted image. Let's create a wave of righteous indignation, so huge that every single Republican candidate and those they're beholden to are washed into the deep blue sea.

Finally, let's ignore the voices that tell us this can't be done, that it's silly, unrealistic, statistically impossible.

Let's put our shoulders and anger and might behind it. Let's get it done! For ourselves and for the future.



appleannie1

(5,044 posts)
7. They funded the clinic for free care that I used in my first marriage.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jun 2022

It was my only source of healthcare for two of my pregnancies and post care. That article is pure undiluted Bullshit.

mcar

(42,210 posts)
8. The CYA talking points have gone out
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jun 2022

DSA/Just Us "Democrats" (in quotes because their stated mission is to destroy the Democratic Party) are all over Twitter blaming Democrats, especially President Obama, for this.

Because sure, let's blame the first Black President instead of owning up to your own role in this.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
10. Blame Obama, but most of all blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:00 AM
Jun 2022

Read so much crap from these enemies of the Democratic Party in the last 24 hours that I want to puke.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
15. I saw some of that yesterday
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jun 2022

If RBG had retired under Obama, this wouldn't have happened. Most of it disappeared mysteriously.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
16. This forum was flooded with such comments yesterday.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jun 2022

On a day when I was among the multitudes who felt heart-sick, reading such dreck was hard to take.

RBG was a hero. Shame on those who shit on her memory.

JohnSJ

(91,967 posts)
46. Exactly. That argument intentionally takes things out of historical context, and ignores McConnel
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:16 PM
Jun 2022

blocking President Obama’s SC nominee for over a year, and that we would still be short one seat if that happened

It was because of 2016 why we are where we are

Cha

(295,929 posts)
79. Exactly, mcar.. they're Projecting.. Not
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:26 PM
Jun 2022

taking Any Blame for their part in getting Roe VS Wade Overturned.. it's all the Dems Fault.

I appreciate that the OP is Exposing "Jezabel's" Gaslit hate.

💙💛

mcar

(42,210 posts)
80. With the leaked opinion, they had time to get their talking points ready
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:45 PM
Jun 2022

and they sure are following them to the T.

usaf-vet

(6,094 posts)
9. This OP brings up a nagging question for me. I've been an active member since 2008 with 5000 OPs..
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:59 AM
Jun 2022

.... so I might not have the history and experience to ferret out who is with us and who is generally not.

How often if ever do paid commenters with an agenda infiltrate the DU world.

This is a serious question because sometimes I struggle to figure out where an OP comes from.

Thanks for any input others might have.

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
14. I engaged with one yesterday
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jun 2022

As far as I know, the person is still here. I suspect it was a troll rather than a RWer, but it was not here to do good.

BumRushDaShow

(127,331 posts)
20. If you ever get chance to serve on MIRT
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jun 2022

you might spot some.

I started about 7 months before you (although I have almost 20 times the number of posts ) and recall the 2008 & 2012 primary wars (the latter just after we transitioned from DU2 to DU3) and it was so bad, I had an ignore list that was 5 pages long. Eventually I made it to a point of having no one on ignore just before the 2016 election as the vast majority were either PPRd, FFRd, or literally left the site en masse. Some were big on pushing both RT and even Sputnik News as "legit" sources. Others were Snowden and Assange fans as well as Jill Stein fans.

Some who had left have been trickling back in under new account names.

Despite that, I would estimate probably 95% of the people posting here are legit and the other 5% are either lone trolls (RW or otherwise), are part of troll farms or groups of disgruntled former DUers, or are paid trolls. When the jury system was put in place (and tweaked over time) with DU3, the trolls would often self-destruct - but only if people would be willing to alert on stuff that violated the TOS like spewing RW talking points, etc.

JohnSJ

(91,967 posts)
55. I presented two links from an online publication which I thought were controversial
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jun 2022

I did not think those links disparaging PP or the Democratic Party were helpful, but worthy of discussion, which is exactly the point I think you are making.


NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
12. Follow the money. Like many news outlets, it's now owned by a private equity company
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jun 2022

Jezebel was bought by Gawker, which was then bought by Gizmodo which went bankrupt in 2016. Then it was sold to Univision.

In April 2019, Gizmodo and The Onion were sold to private equity firm Great Hill Partners.

Great Hill Partners was formed in 1998 by Stephen F. Gormley, Christopher S. Gaffney and John G. Hayes.

In 2018 & 2020 Great Hill donated only to Democrats, but it was only a few donations and small dollar values.

In the 2022 cycle so far however, they've split their more significant political donations between Democrats & Republicans.

The primary founder Stephen Gormley, is a Republican who donates almost entirely to Republican committees and candidates.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
13. I've not paid any attention to Jezebel in the past but this is bonkers!
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jun 2022

So Jezebel wants us to listen to them? We need to stick together now more than ever before. There are going to be other attempts to divide us. This is just the beginning.

Ziggysmom

(3,374 posts)
21. Jezebel has sucked for a while now, I've ignored them.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022

I think they ran out of money to hire any writer who took a basic civics course!

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
22. Sounds like Jill Stein is involved....
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

or others of her despicable ilk. At least republitrash are openly evil.

IronLionZion

(45,269 posts)
28. If anyone on DU suggests voting against Dems or against electing Dems
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jun 2022

They are probably not who they say they are and can be reported.

betsuni

(25,141 posts)
34. Thank you! I wanted to post about that horrible article but the last time I posted
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:52 PM - Edit history (1)

about Jezebel I was inundated with responses that it was a right-wing source. Their attacks on Democrats aren't from the right.

TBF

(31,922 posts)
41. Not familiar w/Jezebel but I've always supported PP & donated to them -
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jun 2022

they were there to provide well woman's exams & contraceptives when I was in college - and they would only charge if you were willing/able to pay. They are very good to students and anyone else who needs care. Still support them and always will. It's not pie - we can support both PP and independent clinics. I'd be suspicious of anyone saying to do otherwise.

iluvtennis

(19,758 posts)
51. Misinformation at its finest. Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to poor women and other
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jun 2022

women who don't have access to healthcare. They do more than provide reproductive healthcare. Planned Parenthood is invaluable asset in poor communities.

llmart

(15,503 posts)
52. I won't stop donating to Planned Parenthood.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jun 2022

I made two substantial donations this year so far and I will make another this coming week.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
69. TY, JohnSJ. I read the Jezebel article but in the horror of the day could think of no coherent reply
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jun 2022

I have spent decades defending the comprehensive work of Planned Parenthood from right wingers — it is horrible to see the attack come from the left. Is this last season’s “Planned Parenthood is Establishment” trope rearing its ugly head? With added “moneygrubber”?

Jezebel could have promoted the work of other groups without mentioning PP. She could have given a boost to other groups without minimizing and even tearing down PP.

An organization that began over a century ago with its founder going to prison for teaching women how to avoid unplanned pregnancies, now finds itself once again just trying to survive.

The PP doctors, nurses, office staff, and escorts have been putting their own lives on the line in this war ever since Roe — they have been murdered, maimed, doxxed, and their children stalked to and from school by RW fanatics.

And somehow they are in it for the money?

I have to stop. Thank you, again.

Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
85. Odd.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jun 2022

I'm old and have no idea who or what Jezebel may be. But as a human being, family member, and retired social worker, I know of 100% satisfaction from all the people I know that have used Planned Parenthood's services. Every single one.

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