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bigtree

(85,975 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:08 PM Jun 2022

VP on Thomas: "I definitely think this is not over... I think he just said the quiet part out loud"

Josh Wingrove @josh_wingrove 1h
VP Harris tells CNN that she thinks Justice Thomas's opinion - suggesting laws on contraception and gay marriage could be overturned too - is the ultimate intention of the court.

"I definitely think this is not over. I do. I think he just said the quiet part out loud," she says.





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VP on Thomas: "I definitely think this is not over... I think he just said the quiet part out loud" (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2022 OP
What are you going to do about Thomas' threat, VP Harris? LonePirate Jun 2022 #1
No, it is about what the voters will do in November? If the actions of the SC are not a motivator JohnSJ Jun 2022 #2
So what are our elected officials supposed to do after we elect them? LonePirate Jun 2022 #4
If you cannot see difference between republicans and Democrats, then it doesn't matter, because JohnSJ Jun 2022 #6
I simply expect action from people I help elect. Is that wrong? I need actions, not words. LonePirate Jun 2022 #8
And isn't that the problem...well I guess in order for that to happen you need more Democrats... Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #10
+++. Thank-you for explaining the obvious. If for nothing else, judicial JohnSJ Jun 2022 #13
This is a thread about the VP, not me. I'm just a voter, not an elected official. LonePirate Jun 2022 #14
well she has no actual authority to directly hold the court to account bigtree Jun 2022 #3
Then why not allow/provide abortion access on federal land? LonePirate Jun 2022 #5
How is it her fault and exatctly how do you do that? Already, Biden has said that the Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #9
because Kamala Harris doesn't have that independent authority as VP. bigtree Jun 2022 #11
She should certainly advocate for that and she hasn't as far as I know. LonePirate Jun 2022 #12
no, that's not the way presidencies work bigtree Jun 2022 #19
What do you think she has the power to do? TwilightZone Jun 2022 #15
She can engage with Biden to take executive action. Has she done that? LonePirate Jun 2022 #16
You think she hasn't been "advocating?" vanlassie Jun 2022 #17
Until she specifically and publicly states that, then no I do not think that. LonePirate Jun 2022 #18
She is right. And this should help the midterms. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #7

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
2. No, it is about what the voters will do in November? If the actions of the SC are not a motivator
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:19 PM
Jun 2022

for Democrats, women right supporters, environmentalists, Civil Rights supporters, etc etc etc, to come out and vote Democratic in November, then nothing will

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
4. So what are our elected officials supposed to do after we elect them?
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jun 2022

Why have elections if voters are the only ones supposed to do something?

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
6. If you cannot see difference between republicans and Democrats, then it doesn't matter, because
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jun 2022

most people here do know the difference

In 2016 some played that same refrain some pushed in 2016, even though it was obvious that for nothing else, the SC was at stake and judicial nominations

It is a shame civics isn’t taught anymore

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
10. And isn't that the problem...well I guess in order for that to happen you need more Democrats...
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jun 2022

How about actions you can take to help...

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
14. This is a thread about the VP, not me. I'm just a voter, not an elected official.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

She should be in her boss' ear all day and persuade him to act if all she can do is advocate.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
3. well she has no actual authority to directly hold the court to account
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jun 2022

...but she can be a strong, visible advocate for the issues which the SC are exacerbating.

What will the vice president do for reproductive rights?
The highest-ranking woman in the United States has made reproductive health a priority.

As the administration and Democrats grapple with the Supreme Court’s ruling and what it will mean for millions of Americans, observers say Harris is uniquely positioned to respond — as the first woman vice president, but also a politician who has spent her career working to expand reproductive rights. But amid a vice presidential tenure marked by perceptions of inaction on key Democratic priorities, how and whether she can or will be effective is unclear.

Ten days before the Supreme Court handed down the decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Harris met with constitutional law, privacy and technology experts to consider the stakes of the anticipated opinion, a version of which leaked on May 2.

Since Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion leaked, Harris has met almost weekly with a range of groups that could factor into a national response to a post-Roe reality, shoring up their support and reiterating the administration’s commitment to defend reproductive rights.

In a meeting this week with state attorneys general, she urged them to look to each other for ways to expand access in their states and challenge their counterparts who were not in the room to brainstorm on other innovative ways to protect abortion rights. She encouraged privacy experts to explain to everyday Americans what is at stake, and her staff is following up to better understand the implications of the ruling and how the administration could respond. And after meeting with faith leaders, Harris’ public message has been that protecting reproductive rights doesn’t have to be at odds with a believer’s values, but only means they agree the government shouldn’t interfere in personal decisions.

read more: https://19thnews.org/2022/06/kamala-harris-roe-v-wade/


LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
5. Then why not allow/provide abortion access on federal land?
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jun 2022

Actions can be taken and they should be taken.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
9. How is it her fault and exatctly how do you do that? Already, Biden has said that the
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jun 2022

abortion pill will be available and states with abortion rights are taking patients from red countries...what can the Democrats do...you think this is their fault. It is not and with a 50-50 Senate, we are limited in what we can do...maybe lend a hand in the midterm and try to send enough Democrats to Congress to work on this.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
11. because Kamala Harris doesn't have that independent authority as VP.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jun 2022

...the VP should be judged on what she's authorized or tasked to do by the President.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
12. She should certainly advocate for that and she hasn't as far as I know.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jun 2022

There are posts in this thread saying she can be an advocate. Then why isn't she advocating for that?

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
19. no, that's not the way presidencies work
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jun 2022

...VPs don't take the lead on administration policy, the president does that.

President Biden sets those policies, and his VP is there to help implement them. When and if Pres. Biden enacts such a policy, I'd expect his VP to advocate for it. That's how presidencies work.

Whatever she advocates directly to the president, whatever she suggests is between them both, and I wouldn't expect the VP to publicly push ahead of her boss, and see no purpose in the VP sharing any differences she may have with the president in public. There can only be one president at the time, and VP Harris knows that well.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
15. What do you think she has the power to do?
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jun 2022

The number of DU posters who seem to believe that our elected officials have a magic wand that can magically fix any problem is, frankly, astonishing.

You're seriously blaming Kamala Harris for this?

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
16. She can engage with Biden to take executive action. Has she done that?
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:07 PM
Jun 2022

We're in a war for our freedom and lives here. None of our elected officials should be given a pass for doing nothing. We need action from them besides going on tv and stating a position they should obviously have had by default.

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