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The driver he did not trust and refused to get into the car.....Was it one mentioned in the Hutchinson testimony?
broiles
(1,361 posts)Wasn't he the one also driving TFG back to the WH?
FarPoint
(12,209 posts)who refused to take tRump to the Capitol....
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)The drivers name has not been mentioned to my knowledge
ultralite001
(891 posts)[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-insurrection-secret-service-certify-vote_n_60f23b69e4b0a771e80437da|]
...according to the book I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trumps Catastrophic Final Year, by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)Maddow interview w/Carol Loenig.
The confusing thing is, Engel was Trumps security detail lead, and was in the suburban when Trump threw his tantrum.
So, if Leonigs report is true, after Trump returned to WH, Engel went to Capitol to rescue Pence?
FarPoint
(12,209 posts)I smell something rotten with this one then....He apparently was told by someone in the mix to not go to the Capitol because a zillion charges would be filed on tRump.
He was in on it then... ....Shaming the honorable reputation of the Secret Service.
SharonClark
(10,005 posts)FarPoint
(12,209 posts)Question...Does he still work in the Secret Service? Bobby Engel
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Public image aside - was said to be a 'mixed bag'.
phylny
(8,353 posts)was in the Secret Service, led it for a time, and once when we were at his house for a party, I said, "Carl, am I the only Democrat here?" He replied, "Probably."
FarPoint
(12,209 posts)This reeks....
obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)They have allowed themselves to become politicized and corrupted.
FarPoint
(12,209 posts)They appear to already figured this out ..We got a clue/ bone of what is coming up next .
Spazito
(49,764 posts)some have said it was Engel but he was the head of Trump's security detail, the lead agent, he was in the suburban on Jan 6th and then he was back at the White House after the altercation. Cassidy Hutchinson testified he was in the room along with Ornato once Trump was back at the White House.
Carol Leonnig didn't say Engel was the driver of Pence's limo, her discussion on June 27th was about the altercation not about Pence.
hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)She relates the scene between Pence, his detail agent (Tim) and his trust in Tim, but not the guy driving. I don't have the book in front of me, but I'm under the impression that Carol Leonig does name the driver that Pence does not trust as Engel.
Spazito
(49,764 posts)searches on that come up empty so far.
Edited to add link to Leonnig discussing the Pence incident in detail and she doesn't mention Engel at all, she mentions others but not him.
Link to tweet
gibraltar72
(7,486 posts)Secret Service staff at White House.